Emm labs DA2 v2 upgrade

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A review of the DA2i by Jason Victor Serinus of Stereophile (March 2025) is out! He said the following:

"The theme is so beautiful. Everything sounds so beautiful. The cello's lower tones are gorgeous and ultrasmooth. Resolution is so good that you can easily tell which of the short pieces - those accompanied solely by piano - were more closely miked than those with orchestra." That's what I scribbled down as I used the DA2i to decode cellist Edgar Moreau''s new recording, Rococo, with pianist David Kadouch and the Luzerner Sinfonieorchester, Michael Sanderling conducting (24/96 WAV download/Erato). As I reviewed that recording for the February issue, the sound was so complete and of a piece that I felt completely confident that my evaluation of the performance and the recording's sound quality was accurate. ... My eyes opened wide when I played Christian Tetzlaff, Tanja Tetzlaff and Lars Vogt''s marvelous recording of Schubert's Piano Trios No. 2 in B-flat major, D 898, from Schubert's - Piano Trios (24/96 WAV dowload, Ondine). As the music flowed through me, everything felt right, every timbre natural. I felt I was hearing the precise tonal balance and artistic interplay that the Tetzlaff-Vogt trio's longtime recording engineer Christoph Franke, wanted me to hear. ... Because the DA2i accurately reproduced the timbres of violin, cello, and piano, I was able to sink deep into the trio's collective soul. My sincere thanks to the musicians, Franke, Ondine and everyone at EMM Labs for the experience. ... Shortly before I began to write this review, I spent an evening at the Seattle Chamber Music Festival reviewing for Classical Voice North America, violinist James Ehnes and pianist Orion Weiss's performance of Beethoven' Violin Sonatas Nos 1-5. To prepare, I streamed the same five sonatas from two recordings: Antje Weithaas and Denes Varjon's extremely transparent Beethoven Violin Sonatas Nos 1, 5, 6 & 10 (24/48 FLAC) and Lorenzo Gatto and Julien Libeer's less transparent but musically excellent Beethoven Violin Sonatas (24/96 FLAC) My concert seat was smack in the middle of the acoustic sweet spot of Seattle's 536-seat Nordstrom Recital Hall; row N center. The live presentation was of course different from what I heard on my system -Ehnes's Stradivarius sounded larger, the piano less resonant in its low range - yet timbres remained consistent between the concert and the DA2i reproduction of two different studio performances. That to me, was validation aplenty that the DA2i's sound is remarkably true to life. ... I frequently switched between the DA2i and the three-piece Vivaldi Apex system - Vivaldi APEX DAC ($46,500), Vivaldi Upsampler Plus ($30,500), and the Vivaldi Master Clock ($22, 950), pitting a $35,000 all-in-one unit against a three-box system that costs nearly $100,000 and, in my setup, requires two more reference power cables, four reference clock-cables ... Comparing the strength and clarity of pounding percussion near the start of the first movement of Mahler Symphony No. 5, performed by Orchestre Symphonique du Montreal conducted by Rafael Payare (24/96 FLAC download, Pentatone), the DA2i's bass was at least as good, if not better than, the Vivaldi's. ... There are many windows on truth. The DA2i is among the clearest and least tinted windows I've listened through in my music room."
 
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Hi guys,

A review of the DA2i by Jason Victor Serinus of Stereophile (March 2025) is out! He said the following:

"The theme is so beautiful. Everything sounds so beautiful. The cello's lower tones are gorgeous and ultrasmooth. Resolution is so good that you can easily tell which of the short pieces - those accompanied solely by piano - were more closely miked than those with orchestra." That's what I scribbled down as I used the DA2i to decode cellist Edgar Moreau''s new recording, Rococo, with pianist David Kadouch and the Luzerner Sinfonieorchester, Michael Sanderling conducting (24/96 WAV download/Erato). As I reviewed that recording for the February issue, the sound was so complete and of a piece that I felt completely confident that my evaluation of the performance and the recording's sound quality was accurate. ... My eyes opened wide when I played Christian Tetzlaff, Tanja Tetzlaff and Lars Vogt''s marvelous recording of Schubert's Piano Trios No. 2 in B-flat major, D 898, from Schubert's - Piano Trios (24/96 WAV dowload, Ondine). As the music flowed through me, everything felt right, every timbre natural. I felt I was hearing the precise tonal balance and artistic interplay that the Tetzlaff-Vogt trio's longtime recording engineer Christoph Franke, wanted me to hear. ... Because the DA2i accurately reproduced the timbres of violin, cello, and piano, I was able to sink deep into the trio's collective soul. My sincere thanks to the musicians, Franke, Ondine and everyone at EMM Labs for the experience. ... Shortly before I began to write this review, I spent an evening at the Seattle Chamber Music Festival reviewing for Classical Voice North America, violinist James Ehnes and pianist Orion Weiss's performance of Beethoven' Violin Sonatas Nos 1-5. To prepare, I streamed the same five sonatas from two recordings: Antje Weithaas and Denes Varjon's extremely transparent Beethoven Violin Sonatas Nos 1, 5, 6 & 10 (24/48 FLAC) and Lorenzo Gatto and Julien Libeer's less transparent but musically excellent Beethoven Violin Sonatas (24/96 FLAC) My concert seat was smack in the middle of the acoustic sweet spot of Seattle's 536-seat Nordstrom Recital Hall; row N center. The live presentation was of course different from what I heard on my system -Ehnes's Stradivarius sounded larger, the piano less resonant in its low range - yet timbres remained consistent between the concert and the DA2i reproduction of two different studio performances. That to me, was validation aplenty that the DA2i's sound is remarkably true to life. ... I frequently switched between the DA2i and the three-piece Vivaldi Apex system - Vivaldi APEX DAC ($46,500), Vivaldi Upsampler Plus ($30,500), and the Vivaldi Master Clock ($22, 950), pitting a $35,000 all-in-one unit against a three-box system that costs nearly $100,000 and, in my setup, requires two more reference power cables, four reference clock-cables ... Comparing the strength and clarity of pounding percussion near the start of the first movement of Mahler Symphony No. 5, performed by Orchestre Symphonique du Montreal conducted by Rafael Payare (24/96 FLAC download, Pentatone), the DA2i's bass was at least as good, if not better than, the Vivaldi's. ... There are many windows on truth. The DA2i is among the clearest and least tinted windows I've listened through in my music room."
I'm not surprised about this review, it echoes mine experience
 
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I'm not surprised about this review, it echoes mine experience
Same. Especially this part: " the sound was so complete and of a piece that I felt completely confident that my evaluation of the performance and the recording's sound quality was accurate"
 
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I plan on doing some extended critical listening this weekend - my DA2 V3 will hit the 230 hour mark of break in Saturday. I too am not surprised by the Stereophile review snipit. Personally, I have never really been a fan of DCS gear. DCS always sounds a little too analytical for my tastes. Great thing about this hobby, there are plenty of options for different tastes. Ive been so busy with work and carting kids around for activities, I have not had much time to listen this week, but today marks the 7-day mark, so I am looking forward to an extended listening session this weekend. I will keep you all posted.
 
I plan on doing some extended critical listening this weekend - my DA2 V3 will hit the 230 hour mark of break in Saturday. I too am not surprised by the Stereophile review snipit. Personally, I have never really been a fan of DCS gear. DCS always sounds a little too analytical for my tastes. Great thing about this hobby, there are plenty of options for different tastes. Ive been so busy with work and carting kids around for activities, I have not had much time to listen this week, but today marks the 7-day mark, so I am looking forward to an extended listening session this weekend. I will keep you all posted.
Let it run 24/7. It needs a lot of time to fully open up and I mean a lot.
 
I still leave it running and it keeps getting better. I’ve got about 2000+ on it. The basic sound is the same. It just opens up a lot more. Nuances, space and soundstage improves. The better your system the more you will notice.
 
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Meant to ask here - for those using USB what cables are you using with the DA2/i? I am using Synergestic Gallileo UEF W silver bullet.
 
Stealth Audio Double-Tune USB
 
Meant to ask here - for those using USB what cables are you using with the DA2/i? I am using Synergestic Gallileo UEF W silver bullet.
Intona ultimate USB as recommended by Taiko Audio. However, did try a budget audiophile USB but didn't work because signal transfer stopped after awhile. Was told that there's strict technical specs for USB and not all are up to spec.
 
I still leave it running and it keeps getting better. I’ve got about 2000+ on it. The basic sound is the same. It just opens up a lot more. Nuances, space and soundstage improves. The better your system the more you will notice.
So I'm not just tripping out...I thought it was pretty settled after a week or two, but then it does keep getting better.
 
One thing I’m very curious is how the internal streamer in the da2i compares to say a good stand alone streamer. Anybody did a comparison?

JVS of Stereophile (March 2025, p. 75) says: "Streaming with Roon: First I streamed far more music via the Innuos Statement Next-Gen music streamer and PhoenixNET switch than I have time and room to discuss.. Then I bypassed the Innuos duo and plugged my network's Ethernet directly into the DA2i. After changing the DA2i's input setting from USB to Ethernet, I was ready to test the DA2i sound using Roon ... without an outboard server. Having previously found Roon's sound a distinct second best to Innuos's proprietary playback software, I expected to be disappointed. Imagine my delight when, streaming Mozart's 'Haffner' Serenade, K250, from Mozart's Serenata (24/192 WAV, Harmonia Mundi/Qobuz), with the Munchener Kammerorchester conducted by Enrico Onofi, the DA2i delivered music almost as colorful, airy, and involving as what I heard when I used the InnuOS 'Sense' playback software to play the files directly from the Statement Next-Gen's internal SSD. The sound was almost as good as when played through devices that, together, cost $25,000 more than the DA2i and require two additional power cables, an extra Ethernet cable, and a USB cable. That's quite an accomplishment."
 
Got my DA2i today. Got in into the rack as soon as I could. Right of the bat, and this is early listening, is that the bass is much more detailed. Like my amp has increased control over the bass coming out of the speakers. Depth has increased too, or it is wonderful illusion. I’m impressed so far.
 
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Meant to ask here - for those using USB what cables are you using with the DA2/i? I am using Synergestic Gallileo UEF W silver bullet.
In my experience you need a way more costly USB cable and a top of the range streamer to best inbuilt streamer which is controlled by mConnect. To my ears Mconnect, although not great UI and lacking multiple nice features, sound wise bests roon and I can easily argue one might be very happy just with one box solution. The inbuilt steamer has harmony and coherence that external device needs to match to be better, and that is not easy.
 
Why not use JPlay instead of Mconnect? It's not just a better app as far as usability, most importantly its a better sounding control app.
 
So I'm not just tripping out...I thought it was pretty settled after a week or two, but then it does keep getting better.
Mine is still playing - I didn't get a chance to listen last night - will be exactly 250H for me this afternoon. Ian - how many hours are on your unit?
 
Got my DA2i today. Got in into the rack as soon as I could. Right of the bat, and this is early listening, is that the bass is much more detailed. Like my amp has increased control over the bass coming out of the speakers. Depth has increased too, or it is wonderful illusion. I’m impressed so far.
Completely agree - the bass is phenominal out of the box. In my case, I didn't own the DA2 prior to the upgrade.
 

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