I have no experience with the Multi-Ten (Ten Ten). The cleanus is a passive filter for your main ac power. You just plug it into a nearby wall socket, and if your main ac has noise, then you should get a reduction in the noise. I already have a AC power conditioner so it's not something I think I need, but if you don't already have one, then you could get either the CleanUS or the PowerUS. Only a home audition will tell you if it is worth it.
Entreq Tellus grounding
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I cannot comment on the Triton cables. Less connections in my view, is a better connector. I never liked the idea of adapters.
You might want to check the Audio Exotics forum regarding Triton cables and alternative cables for Tripoint devices.
Infinity Triton ground cable is a powerful cable that replaced the Infinity Atlantis. I replaced the Infinity Apollo ground cables with the Infinity Triton at the power conditioner, the improvement is huge in all area. I really doubt if I need another one to replace my other Infinity Apollo.
I am the first one in this world to request for a Infinity Triton ground cable with fixed hook connector. I asked Entreq about this and they said they have not made one like that. That said the cable with fixed connector will sound "different". Since then, they added the fixed connector back as an option when you order their ground cable. You can do your own interpretation of what that mean.
I will pick sound quality over flexibility any time.
If you have many components that can use up all ten grounding posts and don't have the budget for the Hero, that is an excellent choice. The included Cleanus which cost a few thousand dollars on its own is a real bonus.
I already have a power regenerator and balanced power conditioner grounded to the Hero. When I connected the Cleanus on my Hero to the wall receptacle, the sense of 3D just pop out with a even more blacker background. I would not buy it separately but if it is included as a package, why not take advantage of it.
On top of all these, you only need ONE set of footers for the Ten Ten, rather than 11 sets of footers if you are buying ten Ten T and the Cleanus separately.
Thank you for all your answers, I am already thrilled about Entreq’s grounding box with a week try at home of a Tellus II Infinity but I want a little bit more, so I have pulled the trigger and ordered an Olympus TenTen. I will go with Triton cables line.
Another question @dts-99 : do you put feet under your Hero under their wheels ? Or the wheels can be removed ? I am concerned about the wheels under the TenTen so I ask you what you did exactly under your Hero ? Thanks again !
I will try to keep you posted about my feelings about the TenTen with Triton’s cables...
Another question @dts-99 : do you put feet under your Hero under their wheels ? Or the wheels can be removed ? I am concerned about the wheels under the TenTen so I ask you what you did exactly under your Hero ? Thanks again !
I will try to keep you posted about my feelings about the TenTen with Triton’s cables...
The Magma Slim Tungstens arrived today. The dealer tried it under his own showroom Entreq ground box and said the sound was more stable and there was an improvement in the low end frequency. He said he was surprised that it made such a difference. In any case, I will begin testing tonight under my equipment. I got the feeling the dealer was not ready to hand them over to me just yet... he wanted to audition for a bit longer.
Great to see all the positive experiences with Entreq's latest generation of designs! I will shortly be posting a new update on the dual Plutons + Infinity T with a complete suite of Olympus cables.
Excellent choice and smart move!!!
T2 Infinity is a great buy and is my first recommendation for someone just getting into the Entreq world. TenTen is my second recommendation for its price/performance ratio. My third recommendation is the Hero of course.
My word of advise is don't use all Triton ground cables. You may overload your system in certain aspect. I would suggest you mix it with Infinity Apollo ground cables. I have a Triton on loan to me from my dealer for a few months already and I still do not feel the need to put it in service.
The Hero has a flat bottom and came with a 2" thick wood cart on wheels. It is beautifully finished but have no use for me at all. The surface of the wood cart and the Hero are so smooth that the Hero can slide out of the cart unexpectedly one day. I just place the Hero on a sturdy stand and put footers under the Hero.
The Ten Ten may have wheels installed or came separate. They were just attached to the bottom by screws so you can take them out any time. I would not put them on wheels for sure if I have the Ten Ten.
You will love the Ten Ten.
I experimented with the Magma Slim Tungsten (MST) under my streamer and DAC last night, removing the footers that were there, (ebony footers). Under the steamer, didn't notice too much of a change, but under the DAC, it seems to improve the coherency and gave the music a just a touch more richness to the presentation. Tonight when I have time, I will remove them from the DAC and see if I miss anything. I suspect the footers will find a permanent home there, at least until I upgrade to the Magma Tungstens.
I did like what I heard a lot and I expect further improvements once the new Panzerholz platforms arrive, one of which will go under the Olympus Infinity Tungsten which is connected to my DAC.
I did like what I heard a lot and I expect further improvements once the new Panzerholz platforms arrive, one of which will go under the Olympus Infinity Tungsten which is connected to my DAC.
I guess Entreq has quietly removed the Magma Infinity from the product line and replaced it with the Magma Tungsten. I can still get it in China, but I am guessing it's just not worth it, and the Tungsten is superior?
Hi...cannot say. In fact, as an isolation piece, we have them in but did not try with/without very seriously. Due to the location on the floor, they were necessary because they lift the grounding box up and over an outlet in the floor where the signal cables go under the floorboards. On a super-quick before and after before we settled on the final location, there did seem to be a greater solidity to the sound with the Magma Tungsten in place...never compared it to any other Magmas.
Thanks. Yea, just thinking about it, as the price of the Magma Tungstens is double the Magma Infinity. I do know I like the Peak 4s over the Everests, so the Tungsten does see to have benefits that make one better than the other. I guess I need to figure out what are the net sonic differences between the Magma Slim Tungsten and the Magma Tungsten. So probably will have to order the Magma Tungsten and compare to the slim.
Tonight I repeated my test, and pulled out the Magmas from under the DAC and replaced them with the Ebony footers I was using prior to getting the Magmas. The difference I hear is that with the Magmas, the sound is more harmonically rich. There is more meat on the bones. I noticed this mostly with Piano Chords, where with the Ebony footers, the tone is more thin, but with Magmas, more rich and pleasing. I won't be able to go back to using the other footers. Now, I can guess that the Magma Tungstens (MT), are probably more of the same as the Slims, even more harmonically rich. Double? I doubt it, but probably after going with the MT you probably won't want to go back to the slims.
Great feedback...I have the Magma Tungstens and do like the quick test we did but again, they came with the larger deal around the dual Plutons, Infinity T and Olympus cables...to accommodate room setup so did not do the full A/B.
DUAL PLUTONS + INFINITY T + OLYMPUS CABLES + PEAK 4s...ADDED TO AN EXISTING TRIPOINT TROY SE
So here is the conclusion with a big health warning to any Entreq grounding box users:
- The entire Tungsten-generation Entreq system is staying
- It has enabled the XLFs to sound more like electrostatics than any cone speaker I have heard either at home or in a system I was auditioning
- It has also thus created a sense of coherence in terms of a single performance across the full range
- Bass propulsion has clearly and dramatically improved
- Finally, the entire musical presentation is far more nuanced and dynamic at the same time...thereby creating a much more dimensional musical experience through a heretofore unheard of level of expression through the XLFs
- Artistry is incredibly more expressive through the system now, and that is a remarkable finding
- The 12-year Tripoint Troy SE is still an exceptional contributor to clarity, nuance and lower noise floor/grunge...it too is not coming out
- But the Entreq set up (dual Plutons, Infinity T, Olympus cables and Peak 4 terminals) has moved the system to a level of expressiveness nothing in 30 years has managed to do. It is not about detail, nuance or even dynamic range in the technical sense...there is something about whatever the Entreq does with these attributes that moves the system very, very far along the 'expressiveness' scale that I have not experienced before any other way
Health warning:
- The reason I took so long in this concluding update is because (having read and been emailed directly about using anti-stat guns on the back terminals of the Tripoint...I decided to try it on the Entreq terminals.
- BIG MISTAKE! IN FACT, FATAL MISTAKE FOR THE EQUIPMENT
- Within 24 hours, the entire bass, verve, musical element had collapsed...frighteningly so
- Entreq were super-professional, particularly the importer
- They actually experimented themselves and discovered the same effect
- And the equipment did not ever full recover
- A fair warning to those interested in trying a tweak known to work on Tripoints.
So they replaced all the equipment after 3 weeks of no recovery...at no cost. That is integrity.
Conclusion: The Entreq Tungsten generation of grounding is sensational.
So here is the conclusion with a big health warning to any Entreq grounding box users:
- The entire Tungsten-generation Entreq system is staying
- It has enabled the XLFs to sound more like electrostatics than any cone speaker I have heard either at home or in a system I was auditioning
- It has also thus created a sense of coherence in terms of a single performance across the full range
- Bass propulsion has clearly and dramatically improved
- Finally, the entire musical presentation is far more nuanced and dynamic at the same time...thereby creating a much more dimensional musical experience through a heretofore unheard of level of expression through the XLFs
- Artistry is incredibly more expressive through the system now, and that is a remarkable finding
- The 12-year Tripoint Troy SE is still an exceptional contributor to clarity, nuance and lower noise floor/grunge...it too is not coming out
- But the Entreq set up (dual Plutons, Infinity T, Olympus cables and Peak 4 terminals) has moved the system to a level of expressiveness nothing in 30 years has managed to do. It is not about detail, nuance or even dynamic range in the technical sense...there is something about whatever the Entreq does with these attributes that moves the system very, very far along the 'expressiveness' scale that I have not experienced before any other way
Health warning:
- The reason I took so long in this concluding update is because (having read and been emailed directly about using anti-stat guns on the back terminals of the Tripoint...I decided to try it on the Entreq terminals.
- BIG MISTAKE! IN FACT, FATAL MISTAKE FOR THE EQUIPMENT
- Within 24 hours, the entire bass, verve, musical element had collapsed...frighteningly so
- Entreq were super-professional, particularly the importer
- They actually experimented themselves and discovered the same effect
- And the equipment did not ever full recover
- A fair warning to those interested in trying a tweak known to work on Tripoints.
So they replaced all the equipment after 3 weeks of no recovery...at no cost. That is integrity.
Conclusion: The Entreq Tungsten generation of grounding is sensational.
So using a anti-stat gun, a tool that most vinyl nut might be using, near the Entreq, turns them into expensive paper weight?
