For what it's Worth-Tesla
- Thread starter Steve Williams
- Start date
my son has had his model 3 since the car came to market. He has close to 90,000 miles and only a 5% battery loss. He'll never sell the car as he got free lifetime Tesla Super Charger
My son got his car in early 2020 so no free supercharging. My wife’s S has it and a sun roof so we are keeping that. My son is trading in his 3 for a new Y.
Tesla battery and drive unit are covered by a warranty that lasts for eight years or 100,000 - 150,000 miles, whichever comes first1234. The warranty covers the cost of replacement if the battery becomes faulty sooner than expected1. Tesla guarantees 70% battery capacity retention over the life of the battery and drive unit warranty5. The exact terms and duration of the warranty vary between different models1.
not sure what your point is Greg. To me the warranty is a good one. My cars are for 150,000 miles. FWIW over my lifetime of driving cars I have never owned one where I drove 150,000 mile or even 8 years as invariably I trade them for newer vehicles
I think the warranty is better than I imagined assuming that it is replace4d at no cost. Rarely is that the case. Most are pro rata.
But to suggest there is little or no degradation in range is not accurate. Even supporters acknowledge an initial decrease in range followed by a slower decline. The warranty does not kick in until it dips below 70% of its range when new. With an initial range of 300 mile a 30%decrease would be significant. Add that to a recommendation of charging only to 70%.
But the proof is in the pudding. If you are getting good results, no worries.
But to suggest there is little or no degradation in range is not accurate. Even supporters acknowledge an initial decrease in range followed by a slower decline. The warranty does not kick in until it dips below 70% of its range when new. With an initial range of 300 mile a 30%decrease would be significant. Add that to a recommendation of charging only to 70%.
But the proof is in the pudding. If you are getting good results, no worries.
recommended charging is and always has been 80-90% AFAIK . On rare occasions charging to 100% is allowed provided you drive off immediately after full charge.
until this year it was always 80%. This years models allow 90% charging but they still have a note that for daily city driving 80% is recommended
You might want to use online calcs if you are trying to save by changing a vehicle. It almost never saves you money; unless you were making the same payments and owe the same amount on whatever you swap.
I am with you that Vroom is fun. I couldn't really care less if Steve is at his finish line waiting. There's always something faster out there.
I like " speed " , i used to have a Ducati streetfighter 1098 / kawasaki racer and i did several trackdays .
Currently i have a " slow " touring motor bike (still 3,1 sec / 100 hundred km/h)
Especially the L twin DUC pulled like crazy
Nothing wrong with eletric car acceleration i like it .
I was skeptical as well , but both the bmw and the tesla were a lot of fun.
Its not the top speed what makes it exciting , its the acceleration
Currently i have a " slow " touring motor bike (still 3,1 sec / 100 hundred km/h)
Especially the L twin DUC pulled like crazy
Nothing wrong with eletric car acceleration i like it .
I was skeptical as well , but both the bmw and the tesla were a lot of fun.
Its not the top speed what makes it exciting , its the acceleration
Last edited:
Vroom costs money, none of which enhances the performance of the car. I liked Vroom too but I am happy to be gas independent. It was costing a fortune each month for both cars. That expense is gone
That's what I have. Grid connected solar on my roof and not an EV. I have solar for environmental responsibility, and since 2016 I drive a small and light ICE car (Nissan Versa SE) with great gas mileage, also for reasons of environmental responsibility -- and wow, is it fun to drive!
At this point I don't think it makes sense to me to switch to EV based on environmental considerations, for all the reasons you have mentioned.
Making the new car costs tremendous energy, and I'll drive mine until it's dead.
Similar threads
 | Steve Williams Site Founder | Site Owner | Administrator |  | Ron Resnick Site Co-Owner | Administrator |  | Julian (The Fixer) Website Build | Marketing Managersing |