Fuse and Cable Directionality

[Geoffkait]

Why are audiophiles the only ones who subscribe to the idea of wire directionality and not the industry at large? Do they know something that pro audio and consumer electronics doesn’t? Even most audiophile cables aren’t controlled for directionality. Nor are most audiophile fuses. Wassup with that?

 

[WillBthr]

Only the wires know for sure....

 

[Geoffkait]

Did you mean wire dresser?

 

[jeromelang]

the USB-C connector has directionality - please, please, never ever make a DAC with UB-C input......

 

[jeromelang]

ST Optical and TOSLINK cables are directional - why is the Meitner family the last to know this?

 

[jeromelang]

Why Ray Kimber does not check and label his TC line of cables (4, 8, 12) and educate all his distributors/dealers accordingly?

 

[Geoffkait]

Why Ray Kimber does not check and label his TC line of cables (4, 8, 12) and educate all his distributors/dealers accordingly?

If I’m not mistaken Kimber is one of only a handful of high end companies that don’t employ cryogenic treatment or control cables for directionality. Did he not get the memo? Side note: Wow, it looks like AudioQuest is finally getting into the cryo game. That’s a shocker. The last holdout capitulated.

 

[SeagoatLeo]

Audiophile Fuses | What's Best Audio and Video Forum. The Best High End Audio Forum on the planet! (whatsbestforum.com) Has an uneducated audiophile who posted nonsense that all fuses are non-directional and not up for debate.

I own high end equipment as do friends of mine, several other best friends are electronic and cable manufacturers, remastering engineers and record reviewers. We all know that fuses can be highly directional, just as much as non-polarized power plugs were on older equipment (where one direction plug in could sound very different from the reverse and often did). This was especially true with my ten years using Synergistic Research, now only using treated Acme fuses. By denying all directionality (it may not always be true for all fuses as we haven't tried all fuses) that poster on that thread sounds more like Audio Science Review members and owner. Ridiculous to deny just as it is ridiculous to state that all cables sound the same if they test the same. We don't know why fuses are generally directional in mid to high end audio equipment but it is.

 

[Gregm]

non-polarized power plugs were (highly directional) on older equipment (where one direction plug in could sound very different from the reverse and often did).

Are you referring to two-prong power plugs?

 

[highstream]

I

Audiophile Fuses | What's Best Audio and Video Forum. The Best High End Audio Forum on the planet! (whatsbestforum.com) Has an uneducated audiophile who posted nonsense that all fuses are non-directional and not up for debate.

I own high end equipment as do friends of mine, several other best friends are electronic and cable manufacturers, remastering engineers and record reviewers. We all know that fuses can be highly directional, just as much as non-polarized power plugs were on older equipment (where one direction plug in could sound very different from the reverse and often did). This was especially true with my ten years using Synergistic Research, now only using treated Acme fuses. By denying all directionality (it may not always be true for all fuses as we haven't tried all fuses) that poster on that thread sounds more like Audio Science Review members and owner. Ridiculous to deny just as it is ridiculous to state that all cables sound the same if they test the same. We don't know why fuses are generally directional in mid to high end audio equipment but it is.

I agree. I don’t know how one can have a discussion of fuses without when necessary speaking to direction, skeptics and other disrupters aside. At the same time, I’m not sure how far a direction-only discussion can go. But let’s make the best of it…

 

[Geoffkait]

Exhibit A, measurements of audio fuse directionality by HiFi tuning.

https://mcru.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Hi-Fi-Tuning-Fuses.pdf

Exhibit B, the paper on wire directionality by AudioQuest.

News Article

AudioQuest cables and other audio products combine solid conductors, high-purity metals, specialized geometries, and stable dielectrics to enable naturally beautiful sounds and images.

www.audioquest.com

 

[SeagoatLeo]

Are you referring to two-prong power plugs?

Yes, absolutely!

 

[racerxnet]

Is the current to your speakers A/C? Is A/C directional ? If the fuse is between the cable doesn't the current move in both directions.

 

[Geoffkait]

Is the current to your speakers A/C? Is A/C directional ? If the fuse is between the cable doesn't the current move in both directions.

That’s what we call a logical fallacy. Claiming that a fuse or wire cannot be directional in an AC circuit. Besides all audio cables are AC, so is power cord obviously. Also, a fuse is attached to one of the 2 wires in the AC circuit, not “between the cable,” although I confess I’m not 100% what you meant by that phrase.

 

[andromedaaudio]

The cable i use doesnt have a direction arrow on it what should i do ?
How do i determine i m listening the wrong way or not ?

 

[Another Johnson]

The cable i use doesnt have a direction arrow what should i do ?
How do i determine i m listening the wrong way or not ?

Try it both ways. If you can’t tell any difference, it’s not important in your system.

 

[andromedaaudio]

Try it both ways. If you can’t tell any difference, it’s not important in your system.

You mean i dont have a good/ revealing system enough , because i cant hear a difference .

 

[Another Johnson]

You mean i dont have a good/ revealing system enough , because i cant hear a difference .

No. I mean that you should not waste money for show.

As an example, CJ’s CEO once told me that his designs were not very cable sensitive.

We have to listen for ourselves and make only those changes that matter in our situation.

 

[racerxnet]

That’s what we call a logical fallacy. Claiming that a fuse or wire cannot be directional in an AC circuit. Besides all audio cables are AC, so is power cord obviously. Also, a fuse is attached to one of the 2 wires in the AC circuit, not “between the cable.”

You get the point. So some asshat spends big bucks and claims he can hear angels singing on a pin head due to a fuse. Great.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

Try it both ways. If you can’t tell any difference, it’s not important in your system.

Or any system... unless they are Isolda Speaker Cables