Have any DartZeel owners moved onto other brands?

[asiufy]

Alexandre: I did have another pair Amati Anniversario stand right next my Sasha, I switch between the speakers for different types of music, as Amati can play violin so musical no other speaker can (maybe the newer SF model or the bigger brother can). I still like the Sasha for its exciting music playback and liveness, and I think its cost/performance is quite high, some other speakers may better the Sasha but the price may not be in the same range.

Having said that, I am still very intrested which speaker your friend replace the Sasha and have better synergy with darTZeel?

He auditioned a Magico Q3, but preferred the YG Anats. I prefered the Q3 Both were much, MUCH better than the Sashas in this setup.
I've also had the Amati Anniversario, a great speaker, no doubt
I don't know how much the Sashas cost where you live, but their cost/performance is pretty low around here, where an Alexia costs US$ 125k... Both the YG and Magico have much better pricing...

alexandre

 

[KeithR]

asiufy-

I demo'd Luxman Class A this past weekend and indeed was quite unimpressed. Or at least the combo with my speakers is poor to say the least- a warm, no attack, mess of a sound. Dart still remains my best SS demo.

 

[Bruce B]

, where an Alexia costs US$ 125k...
alexandre

You gotta be F*ing kidding me? $125k US for Alexia??

 

[asiufy]

KeithR,

It's fun to test different amps and all (I'm guilty of doing it), but you just won't find anything better than the darTZeel. These days I end up testing things just for the heck of it, as I don't expect anything to be substantially better than what I have.


Bruce,

Yes. It's even on the cover of the local audiophile magazine. Apparently, it's the first WA speaker they've liked.
Sashas were US$ 55k, relatively cheap in comparison
Everything costs 2x to 3x here.


alexandre

 

[Elberoth]

Bruce,

Yes. It's even on the cover of the local audiophile magazine. Apparently, it's the first WA speaker they've liked.
Sashas were US$ 55k, relatively cheap in comparison
Everything costs 2x to 3x here.


alexandre

Alexandre, where are you based ? Is that a local euro pricing ?

 

[andromedaaudio]

Yeah which country is that ???:
Is it on planet ripp off or planet maxxtax

 

[asiufy]

In Brazil, one of the most corrupt countries on Earth.


alexandre

 

[Vin-Wei]

He auditioned a Magico Q3, but preferred the YG Anats. I prefered the Q3 Both were much, MUCH better than the Sashas in this setup.
I've also had the Amati Anniversario, a great speaker, no doubt
I don't know how much the Sashas cost where you live, but their cost/performance is pretty low around here, where an Alexia costs US$ 125k... Both the YG and Magico have much better pricing...

alexandre

Alexandre, thanks for the information. I do like the YG as I posted before and I would ilke to listen to Magico more seriously as I have not gave it serious listening session before, all my listening were in the audio show and I was not very impressed. Price wise YG Anats and Q 3 are more expensive than Sasha here so if I can not add on my budget, I will stick with Sasha for a while.

 

[asiufy]

Vin-Wei,

I've heard the other day, at the importer's room, the Magico S5 and S1, with Constellation and Soulution (series 5) electronics. Fantastic! The S1 plays louder (and with more bass) than they appear to. They're actually a bit bigger in person than in the pictures I've seen... Anyway, both were great!
I reckon the S1 would be cheaper than a Sasha, like half the price, and, for my liking, is considerably better, with the S5 being even more so.



alexandre

 

[Elberoth]

I have the S5s, but have heard the S1. I also owned Sashas for 3 years. IMO the S1 is a better speaker in many ways.

 

[MylesBAstor]

In Brazil, one of the most corrupt countries on Earth.


alexandre

That because all the money is concentrated in plastic surgeons down there

 

[Elberoth]

That because all the money is concentrated in plastic surgeons down there

No that is Venezuela

 

[asiufy]

That because all the money is concentrated in plastic surgeons down there

Actually, the US is still #1 on plastic surgery We're #3...

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...s-available-for-the-first-time-100248404.html


alexandre

 

[stereo]

I use a Dartzeel 108 to drive my Magico Q1. I have also a Devialet, an APL amp (and a old Gryphon Antileon that I just sold). None of them sound as good. The Dartzeel really brings magic to the Magico, really shows how transparent and musical these speakers are. Only amp I heard which sounded as well (or better?) than the Dartzeel is Vitus. Would have to listen to it in the same room.
I am waiting for my Magico Ultimate. 115dB sensitivity, so power will not be a problem. Using 4 Dartzeel in parallel in an active set up is an option I am considering...

A friend of mine had the Magico Mini 2. He replaced his Dartzeel 108 with a Soulution. And he doesn't regret the move.

 

[Vin-Wei]

I use a Dartzeel 108 to drive my Magico Q1. I have also a Devialet, an APL amp (and a old Gryphon Antileon that I just sold). None of them sound as good. The Dartzeel really brings magic to the Magico, really shows how transparent and musical these speakers are. Only amp I heard which sounded as well (or better?) than the Dartzeel is Vitus. Would have to listen to it in the same room.
I am waiting for my Magico Ultimate. 115dB sensitivity, so power will not be a problem. Using 4 Dartzeel in parallel in an active set up is an option I am considering...

A friend of mine had the Magico Mini 2. He replaced his Dartzeel 108 with a Soulution. And he doesn't regret the move.

Soulution would be an interesting option as I heard a lot of good thing about it, the only problem is the Soulution 7 series amp are too big, I prefer amp which I can move by myself, 5 series look very common and hard to justify its price tag. Is there a Soulution fourm here?

 

[stereo]

Soulution would be an interesting option as I heard a lot of good thing about it, the only problem is the Soulution 7 series amp are too big, I prefer amp which I can move by myself, 5 series look very common and hard to justify its price tag. Is there a Soulution fourm here?

Don't underestimate the serie 5. It is a very good amp... even if you spend less money for a sexy enclosure.
The Dartzeel sounds warmer, a bit more colored ("tube like"). The Soulution is more neutral, a tad more transparent. Both are great amps.

 

[asiufy]

Don't underestimate the serie 5. It is a very good amp... even if you spend less money for a sexy enclosure.
The Dartzeel sounds warmer, a bit more colored ("tube like"). The Soulution is more neutral, a tad more transparent. Both are great amps.

IMHO, it's not the darTZeel that's coloured, it's the Soulution that's sterile and analytical, neutral to fault.

I've heard both series 5 and 7, and they have the same sound characteristic, which I didn't like. For the kind of music I listen, there's just no meat on the bones, it's just a very dry, yet very detailed presentation.


alexandre

 

[stereo]

IMHO, it's not the darTZeel that's coloured, it's the Soulution that's sterile and analytical, neutral to fault.

I've heard both series 5 and 7, and they have the same sound characteristic, which I didn't like. For the kind of music I listen, there's just no meat on the bones, it's just a very dry, yet very detailed presentation.


alexandre

I see where you are coming from. Don't get me wrong: I love my Dartzeel, but I admit it is colored, the same way a good triode amp is (very) colored. It is just a pleasing coloration for the ear....

 

[hvbias]

I use a Dartzeel 108 to drive my Magico Q1. I have also a Devialet, an APL amp (and a old Gryphon Antileon that I just sold). None of them sound as good. The Dartzeel really brings magic to the Magico, really shows how transparent and musical these speakers are. Only amp I heard which sounded as well (or better?) than the Dartzeel is Vitus. Would have to listen to it in the same room.
I am waiting for my Magico Ultimate. 115dB sensitivity, so power will not be a problem. Using 4 Dartzeel in parallel in an active set up is an option I am considering...

A friend of mine had the Magico Mini 2. He replaced his Dartzeel 108 with a Soulution. And he doesn't regret the move.

That's quite an upgrade. Does the Ultimate have the Magico house sound? I thought the Ultimate had stopped being made after their product line of box speakers started to gain traction.

 

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