Introducing Olympus & Olympus I/O - A new perspective on modern music playback

[dminches]

I would be shocked if there wasn’t another iteration of the analog board. Emile doesn’t sit still!

 

[Moladiego]

It is of course possible to parallel more than one chip for some gains in performance but at the cost of increased complexity and perhaps more importantly, increased current consumption, hence noise.

The solo cable manufacturer from whom I purchased all my ultra-thin (200 microinch for ICs, 500 microinch for speaker cables) daisy-chained 36 (!) classic Philips 1543 chips in his DIY DAC/server combo and reported VAST and HUGE improvements in SQ (which I have not heard, but I trust his experience and report; I mostly share his views and experience and he has exceptionally sharp ears). Enhanced linearity and lower noise from such daisy-chaining. Another guy, the guy who gave me proprietary i2s connection (from a modded DVD transport) reported the same improvements with the same Philips chip; he currently daisy-chained 8 chips, resulting also in a huge improvement in his view. They experimented by adding chips 1 by 1, 2 sounding better than 1, 3 than 2 and so on, the first guy currently to 36 (a huge time-consuming project for him over months). His DAC (as well as his entire audio system) is all battery-powered and no SQ degradation from extra power consumption for such daisy-chaining. That classic vintage Philips DAC chip can only handle PCM up to 24/192, a plus for him because DSD is intrinsically inferior to PCM in his view, which I share based on my own experience. I hope @Taiko Audio could experiment by daisy-chaining at least 2 DAC chips - using my coming Olympus as a guinea pig.

 

[Hificlips]

I posted this AI generated “natural” podcast about the Taiko Olympus, which is based on a meta analysis of curated data… feel free to leave your feedback. I hope you’ll find it surprising, entertaining and informative.

 

[ray-dude]

This is hilarious to listen to

 

[John T]

This is hilarious to listen to

Best part was when the chick mentions the "essence" of the music and the dude says "that's powerful". I almost spit my coffee out! Its everything we knew presented in a squeaky clean fashion...Yes, Hilarious, and Frightening in the same breath...

 

[ray-dude]

Wild to spend literally weeks researching and sharing findings (and collectively many person years for folks posting and sharing here) to prompt an AI to generate a 30 minute podcast.

Whole point is to share information and insights to help others, so I guess that’s ok?

Thankfully the AI presented an excellent summary in a very accessible way. It would be so easy to nudge it in a different direction though

 

[SwissTom]

Wild to spend literally weeks researching and sharing findings (and collectively many person years for folks posting and sharing here) to prompt an AI to generate a 30 minute podcast.

Whole point is to share information and insights to help others, so I guess that’s ok?

Thankfully the AI presented an excellent summary in a very accessible way. It would be so easy to nudge it in a different direction though

I’ve just listened to the 32 minutes "AI Duet " presentation of the Olympus.

It’s truly impressive and, let’s be honest, rather pleasant to listen to.

It’s a great way to get an idea of what the Olympus-XDMI is all about.

However, I did spot a small mistake: there are no moving parts in the Olympus. It could be confusing. This is mentioned 2–3 times (for example, at 21:42).

It’s a shame that the Olympus I/O wasn’t mentioned.

Including it would have provided a complete and accessible overview of the Taiko ecosystem.

 

[Steve Williams]

This is hilarious to listen to

scary real

 

[John T]

The information is good but it reminds me of reading a great book and a bad movie version is made. Curious how they come up with what they perceive to be the best voices to deliver the information. Clearly they missed the mark on this one...They could have used Ron...

 

[jbrrp1]

I'm agog at the folksie conversational tone that the AI generates for telling the tale. Two digital avatars just having a chew over the latest.

 

[MarkusBarkus]

...and their pupils don't dilate...unless you want them to.

 

[Steve Williams]

I would be interested in how this YouTube video was created because this is truly scary real

 

[2ndLiner]

Substantively great for the most part but too infomercial-esque in style for my taste. I prefer this material presented with a friendly, Bulgarian accent...

 

[austinpop]

I posted this AI generated “natural” podcast about the Taiko Olympus, which is based on a meta analysis of curated data… feel free to leave your feedback. I hope you’ll find it surprising, entertaining and informative.

Could you clarify your role in the creation of this "podcast?"

While the tone and content is impressive, what really bothered me was the lack of attribution. The AI has clearly drawn deeply from @ray-dude's review, and the comments on this thread of WBF.

Yet the AI uses vague phrases like "our sources indicate” and “The research suggests” without attribution. This is really troubling.

 

[Hificlips]

Hi @austinpop - those are very valid questions. My primary role in the creation of the podcast is to choose the subject, and curate the relevant data sources to be used by the generative AI. Data sources and links used have been included in the “Sources and Credits” section of the video’s “Description” section. The general intent is to provide some kind of value to the audiophile community.

Once the data sources are provided, the AI entirely generates the content from these data sources, through some kind of proprietary meta-analysis and aggregation, for which the actual process, script used for speech generation, or output cannot be natively accessed to or modified. I give general direction to the generative AI e.g., ask for emphasis of matters, or choice of tone, which is typically a pretty iterative process. I also perform general quality control of the output.

It does appear the language models use carefully chosen language. If the phrases, discussions or references actually point to a specific individual in the data sources (something I wasn’t aware of), I will of course add this individual to the credits, with proper consent. @ray-dude

 

[cmarin]

Hi @austinpop - those are very valid questions. My primary role in the creation of the podcast is to choose the subject, and curate the relevant data sources to be used by the generative AI. Data sources and links used have been included in the “Sources and Credits” section of the video’s “Description” section. The general intent is to provide some kind of value to the audiophile community.

Once the data sources are provided, the AI entirely generates the content from these data sources, through some kind of proprietary meta-analysis and aggregation, for which the actual process, script used for speech generation, or output cannot be natively accessed to or modified. I give general direction to the generative AI e.g., ask for emphasis of matters, or choice of tone for example, which is typically a pretty iterative process. I also perform general quality control of the output.

It does appear the language models use carefully chosen language. If the phrases, discussions or references actually point to a specific individual in the data sources (something I wasn’t aware of), I will of course add this individual to the credits, with proper consent. @ray-dude

Hello Hifickips,

I find the process fascinating. I’ve used AI in only minimal ways. The first time I used it (for an audio query of all things!) I found the response to be well below an expert human level. I then tried other model versions and was impressed with the responses to other more technical queries.

You can quibble with anything, but I was quite impressed with the results you obtained with what appears to be a significantly less effort than a traditional podcast production would have required.

It was informative, and presented the subject in a way that was easy to understand. And frankly, it was better than a number of other audio podcasts out there.

Thank you for posting it.

What AI software did you use? And how long did it take you to produce the result you posted?

Thanks

 

[John T]

It is fascinating, what would be more fascinating is if it presented something that we didn't already know...

 

[2ndLiner]

It is fascinating, what would be more fascinating is if it presented something that we didn't already know...

Hey, JT, methinks that's Emile's bailiwick!

 

[cmarin]

It is fascinating, what would be more fascinating is if it presented something that we didn't already know...

Hi John T,

When I used the qualifier fascinating, I meant the process of using AI for creating the podcast. Not necessarily the content.

Clearly, owners of the Olympus and participants in this thread are already very familiar with the Olympus and its capabilities. And agree with you that the podcast does not add significantly to a subject many of us have been following intently for some time.

But our Taiko world is relatively small. And while it may not be the purpose of the video, the podcast can possibly serve to increase awareness to others who know very little about XDMI and the significant advances that the Taiko team has accomplished.

 

[John T]

Hi John T,

When I used the qualifier fascinating, I meant the process of using AI for creating the podcast. Not necessarily the content.

Clearly, owners of the Olympus and participants in this thread are already very familiar with the Olympus and its capabilities. And agree with you that the podcast does not add significantly to a subject many of us have been following intently for some time.

But our Taiko world is relatively small. And while it may not be the purpose of the video, the podcast can serve to increase awareness to others who know very little about XDMI and the significant advances that the Taiko team has accomplished.

I wasn't attempting to sound like a smart ass, I completely agree with you regarding the creation aspect, genuinely fascinating. It was helpful. I seriously think/believe AI will advance to the point of elaborating much deeper (kind of scary) than what it is fed. That was what I was alluding to...