Japanese Audio: How do the best compare?

joaovieira

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I heard YS Sound amp and pre in Munich in 2017. They use to show up with Zellaton Speakers and Schnerzinger cables.
I am a tube guy, don’t like very much SS, but it was one of the most natural sounds I have ever listened to.
But the price is for few.
 

LL21

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I heard YS Sound amp and pre in Munich in 2017. They use to show up with Zellaton Speakers and Schnerzinger cables.
I am a tube guy, don’t like very much SS, but it was one of the most natural sounds I have ever listened to.
But the price is for few.
Very interesting...i had never heard of this company until you mentioned it. Can you tell us any more about the sound or the company itself? I just went to their website. Seem like specialists in preamps...though have also just seen they do have mono amps but there is almost no information out about them.

https://www.yssound.jp/Products/preamp/yss782
 
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jep123

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Another brand from Japan but not very famous : Spec Audio . Is anyone familiar with their amps ?
Class D made in Japan sounding like tube amps according to my reading but never listened to them ...
Good amps, but nowhere near Kondo or the other exotic brands mentioned here. But they do sound "tubelike"...

JP
 
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joaovieira

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Very interesting...i had never heard of this company until you mentioned it. Can you tell us any more about the sound or the company itself? I just went to their website. Seem like specialists in preamps...though have also just seen they do have mono amps but there is almost no information out about them.

https://www.yssound.jp/Products/preamp/yss782
I don’t really have more information about YS. I was surprised by the almost perfect presentation. certain the best of the best of show.

Then I saw the prices. Pre and power together are over €700.000.
A Brand to be heard in Munich every year, impossible for me to buy it.
 

howiebrou

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Very interesting...i had never heard of this company until you mentioned it. Can you tell us any more about the sound or the company itself? I just went to their website. Seem like specialists in preamps...though have also just seen they do have mono amps but there is almost no information out about them.

https://www.yssound.jp/Products/preamp/yss782
YS Sound amps are beautiful. I have heard them a few times over here. Yes they are not cheap. I think their amps are around 120kusd but that was a while ago.

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LL21

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I don’t really have more information about YS. I was surprised by the almost perfect presentation. certain the best of the best of show.

Then I saw the prices. Pre and power together are over €700.000.
A Brand to be heard in Munich every year, impossible for me to buy it.
Thanks...yes, that is what I read as well. 1500 watt per channel monos
See below: https://audiobacon.net/2019/06/13/high-end-munich-2019-the-best-sounds/4/


From Audio Bacon - High End Munich 2019 Best Sounds commentary:
"Zellaton & YS Sound
I’ll admit – I was drawn to the shiny drivers on these 300 lbs, 4-ohm, 3-way floorstanders. Super pretty. These German Zellaton speakers were driven by Japanese YS Sound electronics. Interestingly, they’re also incredibly sensitive at 90 dB.

Gregorio Paniagua’s Fons vitae / Dementia praecox angelorum played with brilliance. It was able to balance vividness and tactility into a powerful and engaging sound. Admittedly, it wasn’t quite my taste (tonally) but the amount of spatial clarity and atmosphere did draw me in – and kept me there.

 
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RdW

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Robert Koda - Excellent
Kondo - lovely
Luxman - superb value with some really good stuff
Air Tight - love the sound signature. I want to try the 3211 monoblocks.
Accuphase - not bad but would not rate it as high as the ones above although i haven't heard it in a while
Esoteric - used to hate it. Apparently the latest chips are a bit more palatable.
Shindo - Liquid
Zanden - Up there with the best
Soul Note - ?
Don't forget Techdas...or all the magnificent cartridges
Like the summary! Wondering how i.e. a Kondo K10 would compare to ”mainstream” US (D’Agostino, Constellation, Pass and alike)
 

restock

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Robert Koda - Excellent
Kondo - lovely
Luxman - superb value with some really good stuff
Air Tight - love the sound signature. I want to try the 3211 monoblocks.
Accuphase - not bad but would not rate it as high as the ones above although i haven't heard it in a while
Esoteric - used to hate it. Apparently the latest chips are a bit more palatable.
Shindo - Liquid
Zanden - Up there with the best
Soul Note - ?
Don't forget Techdas...or all the magnificent cartridges
Excellent short summaries!

I'll comment on some of the ones I owned or heard more extensively at friends/dealers:
Shindo - Lively, detailed, good textures. I really loved the original Ken Shindo designs - Monbrison, Haut Brion, Cortese. I would consider an original Giscours too.
Accuphase - Delicate, refined, good textures and detail. The Class A tend to be also more engaging with better flow. Out of the solid state ones by far the best built and reliable (Luxman, Esoteric) - absolute perfectionists and Accuphase have been fine-tuning almost the same line-up for 10 years. Moved to an E-600 from a Gicours/Cortese which should say a lot.
Luxman - Great value item. I feel the lineup lacks a bit direction - tube/solid state, inconsist design across lineup, lot of turnover of new products (which can be good/bad). Good sound and like their lively Class A/B sound. For Class A I would go Accuphase.
Kondo - Sounded spectacular and will always remember my first time hearing the Ongaku...
Esoteric - Well built digital players, but never liked the sound very much.
Air Tight - sounded good each time I heard, but not quite as special as Shindo/Kondo...
 
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The new TAD Reference CR1 TX speakers and M700 monoblocks are out of this world. The Evolution series D1000 Mk 2 SACD player is also very fine, much better than the Esoteric K-01X I used to have. I'm listening to them right now in Singapore with a full loom of Audience Front Row power cables, interconnects, and speaker cables, which contribute to the rich, dynamic, detailed, and pacy sound.
 

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