Just got my bill for January's heath insurance, it more than doubled to $733, thanks.

Offensive personal post deleted. Folks, when we discuss the bit of politics on WBF, we need to be cordial. These threads can be education. I learned a lot from folks who corrected me :). Let's keep the conversation civil.
 
Where were the complaints when Bush expanded government and its payrolls to unprecedented levels?

This is not directed at you Peter, I am just sick of Republican revisionist history. Bush INHERITED a SURPLUS. He CREATED A DEFICIT. He DESTROYED the economy. He STARTED the bailouts.

We don't need more or less government, we need government to be what ever size it needs to be to work.

Still Bush? Will it ever end?
 
Sorry I ignited a fire, you guys are friends. In audio as in life... less is more.
 
I didn't want this to be my first post here, but it is. Hello everyone!

Many of us didn't vote for obama and we've been shouting that the country's being taken for a ride since his candidacy. Unfortunately the mesmerized are only waking up to reality when it hits their pocket book; too late. Our premiums also nearly doubled this year to over $2600/month so I tried to look around on the exchange and basically even at double the cost what we have is still a better deal than high deductible plan chez obamacare, which we are FORCED into from next August. Can't wait for the company mandate to kick in next year and see what happens.

Here's something to think about;

During the 3-1/2 years of World War 2 that started with the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in December 1941 and ended with the Surrender of Germany and Japan in 1945, the U.S. produced 22 aircraft carriers, 8 battleships, 48 cruisers, 349 destroyers, 420 destroyer escorts, 203 submarines, 34 million tons of merchant ships, 100,000 fighter aircraft, 98,000 bombers, 24,000 transport aircraft, 58,000 training aircraft, 93,000 tanks, 257,000 artillery pieces, 105,000 mortars, 3,000,000 machine guns, and 2,500,000 military trucks.

We put 16.1 million men in uniform in the various armed services, invaded Africa, invaded Sicily and Italy, won the battle for the Atlantic, planned and executed D-Day, marched across the Pacific and Europe, developed the atomic bomb and ultimately conquered Japan and Germany.

It's worth noting, that during the almost exact amount of time, the Obama administration couldn't build a functioning web site.

Was it incompetence or corruption?

http://allenbwest.com/2013/12/feel-foot-bill-crony-capitalism/

Happy New Year!

david
 
I didn't want this to be my first post here, but it is. Hello everyone!

Many of us didn't vote for obama and we've been shouting that the country's being taken for a ride since his candidacy. Unfortunately the mesmerized are only waking up to reality when it hits their pocket book; too late. Our premiums also nearly doubled this year to over $2600/month so I tried to look around on the exchange and basically even at double the cost what we have is still a better deal than high deductible plan chez obamacare, which we are FORCED into from next August. Can't wait for the company mandate to kick in next year and see what happens.

Here's something to think about;

During the 3-1/2 years of World War 2 that started with the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in December 1941 and ended with the Surrender of Germany and Japan in 1945, the U.S. produced 22 aircraft carriers, 8 battleships, 48 cruisers, 349 destroyers, 420 destroyer escorts, 203 submarines, 34 million tons of merchant ships, 100,000 fighter aircraft, 98,000 bombers, 24,000 transport aircraft, 58,000 training aircraft, 93,000 tanks, 257,000 artillery pieces, 105,000 mortars, 3,000,000 machine guns, and 2,500,000 military trucks.

We put 16.1 million men in uniform in the various armed services, invaded Africa, invaded Sicily and Italy, won the battle for the Atlantic, planned and executed D-Day, marched across the Pacific and Europe, developed the atomic bomb and ultimately conquered Japan and Germany.

It's worth noting, that during the almost exact amount of time, the Obama administration couldn't build a functioning web site.

Was it incompetence or corruption?

http://allenbwest.com/2013/12/feel-foot-bill-crony-capitalism/

Happy New Year!

david


Total and utter nonsense. I take back what I said. Let's kill this thread. Enough.
 
Still Bush? Will it ever end?
How could it? We are still trying to recover from his blunders. There has been only one truly bad president in my lifetime (I was born in 1953); a couple of excellent ones, mostly average, some ineffective, and one (Nixon) with aspirations to be truly bad who couldn't quite get there.
 
Total and utter nonsense. I take back what I said. Let's kill this thread. Enough.

which part is nonsense, nearly $700 million for a non-fuctioning website or rising premiums for less coverage or the FACT that contract went to obama's friends? Why do we need to kill this thread just because the truth makes some uncomfortable?

david
 
Guys

seems we are beginning to walk on egg shells here so let's all take a deep breath and tone it down. IMO there is no doubt that everyone who had insurance is being impacted in some way or another. Rbbrt is correct about premiums rising every year but I just can't fathom a $2600/month premium
 
How could it? We are still trying to recover from his blunders. There has been only one truly bad president in my lifetime (I was born in 1953); a couple of excellent ones, mostly average, some ineffective, and one (Nixon) with aspirations to be truly bad who couldn't quite get there.

Interesting...I suppose democrats have clean hands with Fannie Mae & the Community Reinvestment Act to force lenders to give mortgages to high credit risks. Well we all know how that turned out. What has Obama accomplished in 5 years ? A flawed law (Obamacare) that does nothing to address bringing the costs of delivering healthcare down. What he has succeeded in doing is getting a whole lot of sick financially disadvantaged people coverage at the cost of unsustainability going forward...meaning there won't be enough premium for claims given all the gov't subsidies ect. Everyone who can pay, will end up paying a lot more. Healthcare rationing will increase. It all fits the grand plan of liberal income redistribution.
 
Last edited:
Interesting...I suppose democrats have clean hands with Fannie Mae & the Community Reinvestment Act to force lenders to give mortgages to high credit risks. Well we all know how that turned out. What has Obama accomplished in 5 years ? A flawed law (Obamacare) that does nothing to address bringing the costs of delivering healthcare down. What is has succeeded in doing is getting a whole lot of sick financially disadvantaged people coverage at the cost of unsustainability going forward...meaning there won't be enough premium for claims given all the gov't subsidies ect. Everyone who can pay, will end up paying a lot more. Healthcare rationing will increase. It all fits the grand plan of liberal income redistribution.

Just so that you're not making this up;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Raines

david
 
Guys

seems we are beginning to walk on egg shells here so let's all take a deep breath and tone it down. IMO there is no doubt that everyone who had insurance is being impacted in some way or another. Rbbrt is correct about premiums rising every year but I just can't fathom a $2600/month premium

I can't fathom it either! The country is broken, the nation is divided and our children are facing an uncertain future. We can choose to crack some eggs or go back to talk to things that really matter like my or your ML3s, your choice.

david
 
Guys

seems we are beginning to walk on egg shells here so let's all take a deep breath and tone it down. IMO there is no doubt that everyone who had insurance is being impacted in some way or another. Rbbrt is correct about premiums rising every year but I just can't fathom a $2600/month premium

Steve, maybe you should move this to "anything goes"...well almost anything ;)
 
Just some facts in the link backing what Christian said.
or not... as I said, apparently we read (or interpret what we read) differently...
 

About us

  • What’s Best Forum is THE forum for high end audio, product reviews, advice and sharing experiences on the best of everything else. This is THE place where audiophiles and audio companies discuss vintage, contemporary and new audio products, music servers, music streamers, computer audio, digital-to-analog converters, turntables, phono stages, cartridges, reel-to-reel tape machines, speakers, headphones and tube and solid-state amplification. Founded in 2010 What’s Best Forum invites intelligent and courteous people of all interests and backgrounds to describe and discuss the best of everything. From beginners to life-long hobbyists to industry professionals, we enjoy learning about new things and meeting new people, and participating in spirited debates.

Quick Navigation

User Menu