Offensive personal post deleted. Folks, when we discuss the bit of politics on WBF, we need to be cordial. These threads can be education. I learned a lot from folks who corrected me . Let's keep the conversation civil.
Where were the complaints when Bush expanded government and its payrolls to unprecedented levels?
This is not directed at you Peter, I am just sick of Republican revisionist history. Bush INHERITED a SURPLUS. He CREATED A DEFICIT. He DESTROYED the economy. He STARTED the bailouts.
We don't need more or less government, we need government to be what ever size it needs to be to work.
Sorry I ignited a fire, you guys are friends. In audio as in life... less is more.
I didn't want this to be my first post here, but it is. Hello everyone!
Many of us didn't vote for obama and we've been shouting that the country's being taken for a ride since his candidacy. Unfortunately the mesmerized are only waking up to reality when it hits their pocket book; too late. Our premiums also nearly doubled this year to over $2600/month so I tried to look around on the exchange and basically even at double the cost what we have is still a better deal than high deductible plan chez obamacare, which we are FORCED into from next August. Can't wait for the company mandate to kick in next year and see what happens.
Here's something to think about;
During the 3-1/2 years of World War 2 that started with the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in December 1941 and ended with the Surrender of Germany and Japan in 1945, the U.S. produced 22 aircraft carriers, 8 battleships, 48 cruisers, 349 destroyers, 420 destroyer escorts, 203 submarines, 34 million tons of merchant ships, 100,000 fighter aircraft, 98,000 bombers, 24,000 transport aircraft, 58,000 training aircraft, 93,000 tanks, 257,000 artillery pieces, 105,000 mortars, 3,000,000 machine guns, and 2,500,000 military trucks.
We put 16.1 million men in uniform in the various armed services, invaded Africa, invaded Sicily and Italy, won the battle for the Atlantic, planned and executed D-Day, marched across the Pacific and Europe, developed the atomic bomb and ultimately conquered Japan and Germany.
It's worth noting, that during the almost exact amount of time, the Obama administration couldn't build a functioning web site.
Was it incompetence or corruption?
http://allenbwest.com/2013/12/feel-foot-bill-crony-capitalism/
Happy New Year!
david
How could it? We are still trying to recover from his blunders. There has been only one truly bad president in my lifetime (I was born in 1953); a couple of excellent ones, mostly average, some ineffective, and one (Nixon) with aspirations to be truly bad who couldn't quite get there.Still Bush? Will it ever end?
Total and utter nonsense. I take back what I said. Let's kill this thread. Enough.
How could it? We are still trying to recover from his blunders. There has been only one truly bad president in my lifetime (I was born in 1953); a couple of excellent ones, mostly average, some ineffective, and one (Nixon) with aspirations to be truly bad who couldn't quite get there.
Interesting...I suppose democrats have clean hands with Fannie Mae & the Community Reinvestment Act to force lenders to give mortgages to high credit risks. Well we all know how that turned out. What has Obama accomplished in 5 years ? A flawed law (Obamacare) that does nothing to address bringing the costs of delivering healthcare down. What is has succeeded in doing is getting a whole lot of sick financially disadvantaged people coverage at the cost of unsustainability going forward...meaning there won't be enough premium for claims given all the gov't subsidies ect. Everyone who can pay, will end up paying a lot more. Healthcare rationing will increase. It all fits the grand plan of liberal income redistribution.
Guys
seems we are beginning to walk on egg shells here so let's all take a deep breath and tone it down. IMO there is no doubt that everyone who had insurance is being impacted in some way or another. Rbbrt is correct about premiums rising every year but I just can't fathom a $2600/month premium
Guys
seems we are beginning to walk on egg shells here so let's all take a deep breath and tone it down. IMO there is no doubt that everyone who had insurance is being impacted in some way or another. Rbbrt is correct about premiums rising every year but I just can't fathom a $2600/month premium
or not... as I said, apparently we read (or interpret what we read) differently...Just some facts in the link backing what Christian said.
or not... as I said, apparently we read (or interpret what we read) differently...