L.A. Show, likes, loves, 2 cents
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Great report Mike. I like the explanation you give to your room shots rather than a big gaggle of pics with no explanation(s). Thanks for that.
thank you Peter.
I'm trying to do this while my impressions are fresh. agree on the tt's.
thanks Lloyd.
I deleted my shots from the 1st day as I was not happy with them. many/most of the rooms are very dark (I'm not a fan of flash or phone pics) and I'm using a Leica M body with a 35mm FLE 1.4 lens, and to get decent results in the darker rooms I used a mono pod yesterday......which while a PITA seemed to work in the darker rooms and funky (colored) light conditions.
thanks Christian.
Santa Barbara--(3rd floor)--Cardas, AMG, VTL, Wilson Audio, Audio Element---for whatever reason this one was 'an icepick to the ear' and I ran out. why? don't know. none of the gear is that way inherently. '*hit happens at shows'. if I would have had more personal interest maybe I would have stayed to discover why.
room 301--Magico. not bad, but they only played 'electronic' music in the 2 cuts while I was there so while that was nice and clean and dynamic I had limited chance to judge it. nothing edgy or off-putting at all.
ROOM 374---PBN Audio, Liberty Audio, Porterhouse Audio, Purist Audio---'Texas Style'......my friend Albert Porter was in this room. the sound was 'ok'.......the speakers are very inexpensive. Great to see Albert!!!
room 203---Evolution Acoustics, darTZeel, Durand Tonearms and Telos dac.----more comments----I have to say I'm really impressed with the speakers Kevin Malmgren of Evolution Acoustics has built. I spent a lot of time in this room and listened to lots of different types of music. at first your eyes tell you this speaker before you simply cannot be putting out the sound you are hearing. but after watching these speakers take over 1100 watts from the big bad dart 458 mono blocks Friday night (Herve Deleatraz, Mr. darTZeel, kept pushing them) playing 'You Shook Me All Night Long' at warp 11+ I stopped questioning and just believed my ears. they do scale, they do tone, they do lots of texture and never get compressed or flustered, with super low distortion up and down the FR scale. and it just has this involving, sexy sound. Wow!
Mike, the new EA is very intriguing. Would the say that it may need a sub-woofer in a large room?
yes. i'll try and get some pictures of the outboard crossover boxes (likely others might have already posted pics of those as there was lots of interest in those crossovers). and there is a built in umbilical that is included with the speaker. this crossover is not much different from the 'Exact' crossover you can get with the MM3's and that comes with my MM7's. it's a beast and takes this speaker to another level.
the room it was in was quite large and it never seemed lost despite some very 'large' music being played. so it does not 'need' a sub. OTOH I would guess a sub would go lower, but I don't really know. if I get a chance to ask Kevin (the designer) I will and post his opinion.
listening to the speaker do large scale music you are not thinking 'this speaker needs more'.
Of important note: excellent use of passive room treatment in this room. So many others you have shown have between 0 and very little.
Limited room treatment visible which would confirm your comments about it being "the room". Having shown at CES and other high end audio shows for over 10 years in a prior life, I was always taken by folks bringing great systems into the room and then placing a few lights and some green plants thinking, apparently, that was a better idea than using some appropriately placed room treatment. And as I look at the photos you have posted (excellent work and well done, by the way), I am still taken by this. If ANY room needs treatment, it is the small and crappy rooms at audio shows.
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Hang in there Christian. I still have over 250 pictures to post. I have plenty of comments about rooms which I plan on doing at the end. Mine is an overview of every room. It's easier to comment on one picture than on several 100 otherwise I would be posting these for several days
I have to agree with Mike, the VS room seemed to display a diffuse soundstage. Whether that could have been tamed by room treatments, I don't know, but it would strike me that this would have helped...a lot!
It has always seemed odd to me that exhibitors carry tons of gear to shows and yet see no reason to include room acoustic treatments, or if they do, many times they are minimal at best! Since IMO most of the rooms at this show are a poor acoustic space, i think anyone who considered room acoustic treatments and placed them with some logic, garnered a far better sound than those who did not. Like you said, a few lights and some green plants just don't do it, IMHO.
Mike, nice to see you again at the show.
Hi Mike, great pics. As you know I too have been totally impressed by Meridian MQA demos (and agree about the Meridian speakers too lol).
In Philip's room don't forget the Luxman amps.
Zesto - it did beat the twice priced Allnic 3000 with the Acoustical System Palladian and Soundsmith Poua on Kronos Sparta
The Techdas Einstein room sounded awful at Muich, surprising that Techdas sounds good usually at Munich in other rooms
Would like to know what you think of the TTs and carts playing.
In Philip's room don't forget the Luxman amps.
Zesto - it did beat the twice priced Allnic 3000 with the Acoustical System Palladian and Soundsmith Poua on Kronos Sparta
The Techdas Einstein room sounded awful at Muich, surprising that Techdas sounds good usually at Munich in other rooms
Would like to know what you think of the TTs and carts playing.
Nice seeing you Mike - the EAs sounded very good indeed and Kevin gave me a 20 minute explanation of the external crossover 
He's certainly a "mad scientist" in some respects!
My other favorite rooms:
Hearing first cut lacquers in the Einstein room with Shane Buettner - that was special and unique.
Vandersteen/ARC - the subs and bigger room really did the 7s well and it was dynamic and natural
Vivid/Luxman - always a great pairing and the G2s worked with the room better than the big Spirits according to Philip.
Best YG room - Carmels/ARC. Walk in soundstage and disappeared with excellent punchy bass
Best Magico room - S3s/Jadis. The tonal color of the Jadis matched better than Vac imo
Best small $ sounds - Pranafidelity monitor and Zu Audio's new Druid VI. Sean has really taken a giant leap forward with his design. The FirstWatt F7 is a great, inexpensive amp. Jeff Catalano's importing some sweet new value SET gear from Taiwan as well.
Cool TTs- the new Thorens and the big Kuzma w/ 14" arm. Many were talking about the Spiral Groove, but I didn't have a chance to see it.
I did not get to hear the Wilson or Harman rooms.
I also heard the Volti and Spatial Audio horns, but felt they had some horn coloration. In the 10k range, the Zu was better.
The Magnepan demo was my least favorite - why they didn't put 20.7s w/ great amps in that huge room was disappointing. That's what we all want to hear.
The sense of scale in the VSA room was pretty awesome as was the bass (no doubt the 50 tube traps helped that component). The Vac gear toned down the ceramic driver characteristics that typically bother me. I would agree with others the imaging was diffuse.
Music I brought that was a hit:
Max Richter- Three Worlds...
Jarvis Cocker and Chilly Gonzalez- Room 29
It was great touring rooms with Ron, Mike, Amir, and others. Turns out Ron and I share similar taste in audio components. I also chatted with Jonathan Tinn, Alex and Fabio, Kevin Hayes, Jim White, JC from Jadis, Volker from Einstein, etc. We have a wonderful WBF contingency and that needs to be pointed out more often
And a big shout out to Jeff Tyo (Jeffrey_T) for lugging my records around all day!
He's certainly a "mad scientist" in some respects!My other favorite rooms:
Hearing first cut lacquers in the Einstein room with Shane Buettner - that was special and unique.
Vandersteen/ARC - the subs and bigger room really did the 7s well and it was dynamic and natural
Vivid/Luxman - always a great pairing and the G2s worked with the room better than the big Spirits according to Philip.
Best YG room - Carmels/ARC. Walk in soundstage and disappeared with excellent punchy bass
Best Magico room - S3s/Jadis. The tonal color of the Jadis matched better than Vac imo
Best small $ sounds - Pranafidelity monitor and Zu Audio's new Druid VI. Sean has really taken a giant leap forward with his design. The FirstWatt F7 is a great, inexpensive amp. Jeff Catalano's importing some sweet new value SET gear from Taiwan as well.
Cool TTs- the new Thorens and the big Kuzma w/ 14" arm. Many were talking about the Spiral Groove, but I didn't have a chance to see it.
I did not get to hear the Wilson or Harman rooms.
I also heard the Volti and Spatial Audio horns, but felt they had some horn coloration. In the 10k range, the Zu was better.
The Magnepan demo was my least favorite - why they didn't put 20.7s w/ great amps in that huge room was disappointing. That's what we all want to hear.
The sense of scale in the VSA room was pretty awesome as was the bass (no doubt the 50 tube traps helped that component). The Vac gear toned down the ceramic driver characteristics that typically bother me. I would agree with others the imaging was diffuse.
Music I brought that was a hit:
Max Richter- Three Worlds...
Jarvis Cocker and Chilly Gonzalez- Room 29
It was great touring rooms with Ron, Mike, Amir, and others. Turns out Ron and I share similar taste in audio components. I also chatted with Jonathan Tinn, Alex and Fabio, Kevin Hayes, Jim White, JC from Jadis, Volker from Einstein, etc. We have a wonderful WBF contingency and that needs to be pointed out more often
And a big shout out to Jeff Tyo (Jeffrey_T) for lugging my records around all day!
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