Mark Levinson No 53 - Any recent experiences??

[microstrip]

Is it? I ask you to compare two versions of vanilla ice cream. Are you better off comparing them side by side, or having one, then keep eating the other for three months? I don't know about you, but I forget what I typed two seconds ago let alone remember how something very similar to the current specimen sounded like eons ago .

You may be right. Question is, how do we know that relative to it being an excuse to dismiss results that contradict it? When is it an excuse to accept new data vs a factor by itself? And how do we prove the answer is right? I know how to do it in the case of it being an excuse. Don't know how to do the other.

Amir,

I would not expect you to go in this misleading analogy, even with a smile ...

Do you remember the typical sound of CD players of the late 80's? For the first few weeks or months most of us loved it. Only when we found we were not listening anymore, that wife was not joining for hearing the new recordings and even the cat ran away after a few minutes we realized that it was not the perfect sound forever ... I still have some reviews of early players - how mistaken people were at that time!

BTW, I hope some day I will be able to listen to a ML53 and have an opinion on it. But at that time it should be with a ML52 and an adequate source, cables and speakers - I am a system believer.

 

[Gregadd]

http://www.stereophile.com/content/mark-levinson-no53-reference-monoblock-power-amplifier-page-2 Read the review for yourself.
Long term listening appeared not to be of the A/B variety, Impressions involved the cumulative effect. Memory can be augmented by note taking.

 

[NorthStar]

http://www.stereophile.com/content/mark-levinson-no53-reference-monoblock-power-amplifier-page-2 Read the review for yourself.
Long term listening appeared not to be of the A/B variety, Impressions involved the cumulative effect. Memory can be augmented by note taking.

Thanks Greg, I did not realize that it was already online (wow that's quick now; this is the December 2012's issue).

* Indeed, "long-term listening..." in the conclusion.

 

[A.wayne]

It measured poorly and obviously not a good match for Wilson's , Distortion spectra tells the tale , the 1K square wave had titties ....

 

[amirm]

Amir,

I would not expect you to go in this misleading analogy, even with a smile ...

Do you remember the typical sound of CD players of the late 80's? For the first few weeks or months most of us loved it. Only when we found we were not listening anymore, that wife was not joining for hearing the new recordings and even the cat ran away after a few minutes we realized that it was not the perfect sound forever ... I still have some reviews of early players - how mistaken people were at that time!

You are describing a different scenario. If in that, there was the perfect CD player of today, would you still need months of listening to that old CD player to know it sounded different? Or would that difference be more obvious in very fast AB switches between the two? In this case, I assume MF had an amp that he liked so that comparison would not benefit from long and longer listening times if you buy the argument I just mentioned .

BTW, I hope some day I will be able to listen to a ML53 and have an opinion on it. But at that time it should be with a ML52 and an adequate source, cables and speakers - I am a system believer.

Thanks for being open minded . I have made an offer in the past which I will renew: if there is someone in Seattle area who likes to compare the ML 53 to their amp, we can bring ours there, do the listening tests, and let the chips fall wherever they may.

 

[NorthStar]

-- One thing to remember here, as Michael Fremer said he does not listen for long periods of time, at a time. ...And that's very smart, he knows that well.

 

[Gregadd]

fatigue
Noun
Extreme tiredness, typically resulting from mental or physical exertion or illness.
Verb
Cause (someone) to feel tired or exhausted: "they were fatigued by their journey".
Synonyms
noun. weariness - lassitude - tiredness - exhaustion
verb. tire - weary - exhaust - wear out - try - wear

 

[Gregadd]

MF

find a retailer who can demonstrate for you a pair of No.53s, and give them a long, serious listen. You might like the sound

 

[amirm]

fatigue
Noun
Extreme tiredness, typically resulting from mental or physical exertion or illness.
Verb
Cause (someone) to feel tired or exhausted: "they were fatigued by their journey".
Synonyms
noun. weariness - lassitude - tiredness - exhaustion
verb. tire - weary - exhaust - wear out - try - wear

Ah. Now I get it. So instead of listening to the amp, MF tried to carry it up and down the stairs and that is why he was "exhausted, worn out, etc?"

 

[Gregadd]

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