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[T Boost]

Chiming in to say I'm another happy Massif customer re: amp stand for our Pass Labs X250.8 amp. Trevor was great to work with, wicked patient w/ considerable Q&A. Amazingly protective shipping. Highly recommended.

Thanks DB, glad you’re happy.

 

[Salectric]

Chiming in to say I'm another happy Massif customer re: amp stand for our Pass Labs X250.8 amp. Trevor was great to work with, wicked patient w/ considerable Q&A. Amazingly protective shipping. Highly recommended.View attachment 141275

Very nice! Did you choose maple for the platform and legs? What footers are you using under the legs?

 

[djbnh]

Very nice! Did you choose maple for the platform and legs? What footers are you using under the legs?

Yes, it's maple. Trevor's work, including the wicked nice leg work (no pun intended), is commendable.

Re: footers - I went with the IsoAcoustic Gaia I footers after much internal debate / research, (Trevor offers some very nice options including the Carbide series.). I also put sliders under the footers because that amp / amp stand combo is a beast to move, even more so in tighter quarters.

Re: footer selection process - I tried to find something that provided in my (and my wife's) mind an acceptable cost/performance balance. So far the Gaia I's seem to be working well for our needs, and I'm open to understanding that other members would take a different route. I have Gaia II's under our Qualio IQ speakers, and Gaia III's come standard on our Pure Fidelity Harmony turntable. So I already was familiar with the product's performance in our audio room, albeit I seriously considered the Carbide series.

Happy listening!

 

[Salectric]

Thanks for the reply @djbnh. I have read about Gaia feet but never tried them. For my Massif equipment rack, I went with the Carbide Base footers recommended by Trevor. As the timing worked out, the rack arrived several days before the footers so I used the rack without footers first and I was then able to hear the contribution of the Carbide Base footers. Suffice it to say the CB footers made a significant improvement—-more extension in the bass and treble as well as more detail and better micro-dynamics. When I ordered my amp stands, I considered getting them with CB footers but the cost of 8 was more than I wanted to spend. I went instead with the Soundcare spikes Trevor carries. I requested the same bolt size as Carbide Base so I can switch to them in the future.

 

[mxk116]

Chiming in to say I'm another happy Massif customer re: amp stand for our Pass Labs X250.8 amp. Trevor was great to work with, wicked patient w/ considerable Q&A. Amazingly protective shipping. Highly recommended.View attachment 141275

Most of the Massif platforms and racks I've seen are attractive but this one is exceptionally so.

Lovely wood choice. Hope it sounds as good as it looks. Enjoy.

 

[Chrisl]

That rack turned out really nicely. You’ll be in for a treat when that new weight arrives.

Hi, thanks. Yes there is actually a reason. The bolts and washers that are needed to hold the uprights to the shelves are pretty substantial. (3” x 3/8” with a 9/16 head. ) the hole required for that bolt and washer is simply too big to have it centered while also making the leg flush with the top . I’ve done it a couple times before and the hole is so close to the top of the leg that it doesn’t look good. Secondly, from a woodworking standpoint, I prefer to have the wood secured by both the bolts as well as the leg. You can see in the pic I’ve attached that the leg protrudes 1” above the top shelf, if I had it cut to sit flush instead, you can see how close it would be to the bolt hole. It’s a careful balance between aesthetics, strength and quality.

Fun fact about Massif racks is that if you were to get a screw gun and reverse out all the bolts in your rack , nothing would happen. Your rack would still be standing straight up.
The bolts are used only to secure the legs, but are in no way load bearing. The dado joints cut into the leg absorb all the weight of both the shelf and the gear. Hence why we have zero weight limits. I hope that helps. Take care

Trevor, interesting build. Are the shelves have dados too? You do make some beautiful racks!

 

[T Boost]

Trevor, interesting build. Are the shelves have dados too? You do make some beautiful racks!

Thanks! The shelves don’t have dados , the legs do. In this type of application there’s nothing stronger than a dado. This is why I don’t bother with any weight restrictions. I’ve had the heaviest gear on Massif racks and experienced zero deflection.

 

[T Boost]

Thanks for the reply @djbnh. I have read about Gaia feet but never tried them. For my Massif equipment rack, I went with the Carbide Base footers recommended by Trevor. As the timing worked out, the rack arrived several days before the footers so I used the rack without footers first and I was then able to hear the contribution of the Carbide Base footers. Suffice it to say the CB footers made a significant improvement—-more extension in the bass and treble as well as more detail and better micro-dynamics. When I ordered my amp stands, I considered getting them with CB footers but the cost of 8 was more than I wanted to spend. I went instead with the Soundcare spikes Trevor carries. I requested the same bolt size as Carbide Base so I can switch to them in the future.View attachment 141280

Thanks!!!