My Pachanko Server is here. A bargain at 16k Euros?!

No doubt, the Panchanko server is a top-class product. Hopefully not off topic, I would also like to offer a shout out to Alex Sound's presentation of the Sforzato DAC. I have now heard it on three occasions over the past two years. Once with the fidata server and twice with the Panchenko. There is a lot of magic coming out of this little known and unassuming $10k DAC. No silicon based DAC I have experienced rivals the natural ease, saturated tone and pure musicality of the Sforzato design. I am hoping to audition their Reference level 050 DAC and Rubidium clock in the August/September time frame and expect it will surpass the big boys since my comments above are confined to their $10,000 DAC.
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Hello guys ,
I would like to share my experience with you about pachanko constellation reference,first i want to say excellent customer service.chan is an excellent person always helped me in every way without getting bored.This is the first time I have experienced such helpful customer service. Thank u chan.
My experience with the pachanko brand first started with the mini se model.Replaces DCS Network Bridge and Roon Nucleus.mini se is a really successful transport,I used it for about 1 month.
but the main issue is the reference model,reference is a completely different league.There are very serious differences between the mini se and reference.I've been using it for 1 week,and it gets better every day.The obvious improvements in the reference model are as follows: soundstage ( more 3d ,airy and pinpoint ) a blacker background and a much more dynamic presentation.I'm very happy to switch to the reference model,it definitely gives value for money.This is the first time I've heard such a good digital sound in my system.I'm currently doing hq player trials,I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject.but it sure is better than roon alone.


I highly recommend Pachanko to everyone,especially the reference model.

Thank u
 

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Hi all.
Yes, Pachanko servers can be discussed for a long time - everyone will have their own good personal experience. But in my opinion, the most important quality that is inherent in Pachanko is unconditional musical expressiveness. It's worth a lot.
We have finally found that perfect server for our cool players / DAC Sforzato, with which we have complete synergy.

Looking ahead a little, I'll tell you "secretly" Chan and I are now finishing testing Audirvana on the Pachanko server.
It's hard to imagine, but this is many times better than the already well-fitted Roon. It's not a secret for many that Roon is of limited quality and on the top models of Pachanko servers it will be a significant drag on SQ.
Much has already been written about this here.
Audirvana also has a remote control App, which will allow you to conveniently use the server.

So there is not much left to wait for Pachanko's next level of SQ.
And yes, Chan is a great person, both a subtle professional in his field and a very punctual and sympathetic person.
Its SUPPORT is hard to overestimate!
 
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Nice write up! Learning a lot
Recently received my Pachanko Constellation Masterpiece server (formerly called Constellation SE+) and just want to share some initial impressions with you guys.

I had little knowledge of this company except for their digital cables which have received great feedbacks from a lot of people doing DIY servers. I had researched other choices before I took the plunge (I had an old thread ages ago about it).
  • Taiko. (love to try one but over what I am comfortable spending on a server)
  • Innuos Statement (similar price point, easy plug and play, 2 boxes)
  • Antipodes K40. (from NZ, close to me! a LOT of good reviews. specs look a bit meh on paper)

My current setup:

CH C1 (with HD streaming card)-T1-X1-M10- Marten Mingus Orchestra.

Network is optimised with dedicated power circuits w gigawatt inwall cablings, Sablon ethernet cables head to toe, SBoosters on modems, clocked SOTM and Uptone ER powered by Uptone JS-2.

I use ROON, despite a lot of people bagging it, it’s the best music interface I have tried and for a computer-illiterate like myself it’s great. I have tried Taiko Beta version TAS and CH’s own app. They are both terrible from a user experience point of view (sorry Taiko fans!)

So…. after hours of research and many many emails to Pachanko I spent my hard earn $ and went for it. Not knowing what to expect... this is a company that does almost zero marketing. At least I could find very little about them.

I belong to the camp that believes power is extremely important to digital playback, or any HiFi component for that matter. Over 20+ yrs of doing this, I have learned that #1 is the room, #2 is quality of the power supply. Without these 2 things optimised you are pretty much swimming against the current.

The 2-box power supply is a beast, and that’s what sets this apart. The rest are just computer parts and software to me. I have seen the internals and the amount of Mundorf caps that were packed in there is ridiculous. No wonder they need 2 boxes to fit everything in. Taiko has a beefy power supply too but it’s on a different price point.

The 2 LPS boxes are connected via a short umbilical and another custom DC cable with Neutrik plugs into the Server. Has a thick copper base plate and some cheapo rubber feet. I placed them on Voodoo Iso-pods. I believe Pachanko used to sell the LPS on their own (minus the servers) but they seem to have taken it off their website and just offering a low-spec LPS. Maybe the margins are crap as these aren’t cheap to make?

FYI, my previous Roon server was a Silent Angel Rhein Z1, powered by Uptone JS-2. And that served me well over 1 yr and tbh, for the cost (with a good LPS), it will kill a lot of more expensive servers. It convinced me that digital is the way to go in the future. I A/B tested the Z1 with standard adaptor vs LPS, it’s a must imo.

After some long saga with manufacturer/COVID delays, they finally arrived via DHL and Pachanko immediately dialed into the server and helped me setup and uploaded my music onto it. And after some tweaking from them, it was up and running in no time.

They came double-boxed with foam damping on the insides, and the idiots at DHL threw the box around a bit, luckily no major damage inside. I would prefer some better packaging for something at this price point, ie custom sized thicker foam and internal dividers. There’s also no instructions manuals or warranty card etc. For a small company, it’s ok.

I am waiting for their reference powercord to come (supposed to be included for this top-of-line model), so currently using an old PAD Dominus to power the LPS. They recommend plugging this into the High-current output of my conditioner, not the digital output due to how hungry the LPS is.

Quality is great. These low-production products worry me always as QC can be hit and miss. But it feels like a tank. The Server box is your generic DIY metal case, Taiko/Innuos have nicer looking bespoke designs imo. The LPS have heavy milled aluminium cases with integrated cooling slots. Not sure if it’s off the shelve design like the server but I haven’t seen this used elsewhere. Anyway, I like the look of the LPS. Back of server just look like a computer with standard USB slots etc, LPS power plug is Furutech NCF type. Pachanko was kind enough to change the colour of the power buttom LED to amber from the standard blue, to match the rest of my CH gear.

Bit of a pain to find room on my rack cos there are 3 boxes (with short cords) and the LPS are heavy! They don’t run hot so I can place them inside a cabinet with minimal air flow.



So… how does it sound?

I left them on 24/7 (the caps take a while to run in). But I usually leave my system on 24/7 anyway. So my initial impression after a few days of running in:

It’s Quiet. Very quiet background. Music just pops out at you and the holographic presentation is further improved (it was pretty good already!). Vocals especially is more palpable. I love listening to live recordings and the soundstaging/ and imaging is just magical.

It conveys music in a trueful way. I ran thru some older recordings and my old server seems to iron out more of the “nasties” while the Pachanko just tells it like it is. So good and bad with this. Good recordings sounds better, Poor recordings sounded worse. Does this mean the Pachanko extracts more details? I don’t know. It is what it is.

Any more details it will be bordering on fatiguing to my ears. Think Esoteric digital fatiguing. This is just enough details for me. I am more of a soundstage/image guy, my CH system is quite detail and resolving already. Bass is another area that was improved. The quality of the “thump” has further improved and it was one of things I wanted to play around with but given constraints of my listening room it was hard. I don’t have a big room but it’s well treated.

One thing that surprised me was the Tidal streaming was also improved. That I don’t quite understand as streaming is via the CH streaming card. I asked them and apparently it’s the software or file management via Roon that accounts for the change? Damn if I know but I am not complaining. It’s super responsive in Roon as well, which is prob due to a faster processor vs my old server.

After upgrading to the CH M10 (from M1.1), I was thinking “this is it for me”, it’s 10 out of 10 already.

This new server just notched it up another 0.5, so it’s now 10.5 out of 10 :)


Is it a massive improvement over my old server? No, at the level of my system any upgrade is marginal and subjective. Don’t kid yourselves! I don’t have super-human hearing like some of you guys have, and I am not one of those who rave about putting an damping footer and how it “totally” transformed the system.o_O



But I would say the real world improvement I got is of the same magnitude as upgrading your speaker cables + interconnects. And for those who has an already good system/speakers that are resolving enough, this server makes a difference. And for those who don’t, spend money on room treatments then get better components first imo.

As for the Pachanko, I would defintely put it on your shortlist.

For 16k euros retail, it's both expensive and a bargain at the same time. That power supply ain’t cheap to make and Pachanko cables aren’t cheap either. Support been good and CHAN (who is one of the owners) has always been quick to reply my queries.

I can see Pachanko now has many new products coming up and several cheaper server models available too. I would say their lower priced models would be quite attractive for someone on a lower budget and fewer rack spaces:). I am usually quite skeptical of smaller audio companies as it’s quite a cut-throat industry, esp now with COVID etc. But imo Pachanko deserves to be considered amongst other hi-end servers.


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Happy to answer any questions.
Great write up! I’ve learned a lot and agree with your priorities!
 
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Today I noticed that Pachanko announced an important update for their servers. Straightaway I talked to Chan and wonder if he can update my system and he said yes. It only took a few minutes to get the updates done. I started playing music right away. To me, there is more dynamic and more weight in the music. It’s so easy to keep listening for hours with the pachanko server in place.
 
Today I noticed that Pachanko announced an important update for their servers. Straightaway I talked to Chan and wonder if he can update my system and he said yes. It only took a few minutes to get the updates done. I started playing music right away. To me, there is more dynamic and more weight in the music. It’s so easy to keep listening for hours with the pachanko server in place.
Which gear do you have from Pachanko, enjoy new SQ
 
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Today I noticed that Pachanko announced an important update for their servers. Straightaway I talked to Chan and wonder if he can update my system and he said yes. It only took a few minutes to get the updates done. I started playing music right away. To me, there is more dynamic and more weight in the music. It’s so easy to keep listening for hours with the pachanko server in place.
I have to agree. Chan did my update earlier today but just now listening to it. Without a doubt more dynamic and extra weight in a good way.
 
Concur.

Chan messaged me to say he had (secretly) updated my Masterpiece. Vocals are ooooooh so seductive. Even blacker background, vocals pop out in front of you. Lights off, eyes closed, a mini jazz concert in front of me :cool:

This update is the most noticeable improvement over previous updates imo. And it's free!

Exceptional customer service.
 
It must be an age thing, that for some reason I woke up at 5:00am this morning and grabbed my phone out of boredom. Within minutes (coincidence?) Chan send me a live message to point me at the upgrade that he had published on his website, to be available for my Constellation SE as described above here. I gave him instant permission to do the upgrade as I always keep my Pachanko server and Stelar power supply switched on. Being mindful of my dearest neighbors, I told Chan that I wouldn’t be able to test the upgrade until a couple of hours. I have meanwhile played most of my favorite test tracks and I can concur with all of the comments made here about this upgrade. Increased spaciousness in between instruments. Depth in stage has also increased considerably. Bass jumped up even further in punchiness and remains very controlled. Wholeheartedly recommended!
 

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It must be an age thing, that for some reason I woke up at 5:00am this morning and grabbed my phone out of boredom. Within minutes (coincidence?) Chan send me a live message to point me at the upgrade that he had published on his website, to be available for my Constellation SE as described above here. I gave him instant permission to do the upgrade as I always keep my Pachanko server and Stelar power supply switched on. Being mindful of my dearest neighbors, I told Chan that I wouldn’t be able to test the upgrade until a couple of hours. I have meanwhile played most of my favorite test tracks and I can concur with all of the comments made here about this upgrade. Increased spaciousness in between instruments. Depth in stage has also increased considerably. Bass jumped up even further in punchiness and remains very controlled. Wholeheartedly recommended!
Funny Chan did the latest upgrade on my unit yesterday. I forgot about it as I was deep into work when Chan reached out to me. Later in the day I put on some music (mostly streamed) and was like what happened. The music seemed to have more life and more enjoyment. Awesome job Chan, another sweet update!
 
I'd say it sounds even more musical than before, like this update. Good work, Chan.
 
I recently purchased a Constellation Mini server, and have had several solutions in my possession, including the Roon Nucleus, a Metrum Ambre and the Auralic Aries G1. The Constellation Mini in Diretta mode is the closest solution to my top-of-the-range Verdier La Platine turntable, equipped with an FR64s arm and a Koetsu Urushi Vermilion cartridge. The combination with my APL-DSD-AR DAC is just fabulous! Thanks Pachanko!

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I recently purchased a Constellation Mini server, and have had several solutions in my possession, including the Roon Nucleus, a Metrum Ambre and the Auralic Aries G1. The Constellation Mini in Diretta mode is the closest solution to my top-of-the-range Verdier La Platine turntable, equipped with an FR64s arm and a Koetsu Urushi Vermilion cartridge. The combination with my APL-DSD-AR DAC is just fabulous! Thanks Pachanko!

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Nice congrats I’ve heard really good things about this, what’s the other 2 black boxes , thanks
 
Oliospec Canario DUB (Diretta USB Bidge) and Teddy Pardo as a power source for the switch.
Hi,so is the USB bridge part of the Pachanko system or something you decided to add, does it add much to the overall SQ. Is it possible you could give your system set up from router with cable used so I understand properly the full system. Thank you
 

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