Need help with decision - high end integrated

[Synaxis]

Hmmmmm. I guess I have more to consider then. I think it’s funny that Esoteric and ML seem to be the most disliked brands on the forums. Less so here and AA, but otherwise people throw hate. I’d love to hear those Tobians too!

I've heard dozens and dozens of speakers.

In my PERSONAL opinion, the Tobians are the very tip of the top for me in the sound I like.

They are not cheap, but these give by far the absolute best most musical sound I have ever had in my system - ever.

I've got 4 tube amps here right now from 9 watts to 55 watts in total I can run on them.

Although there are many fine amps I could easily live with, the Aries Cerat + Tobian's is a match that. so far - by a wide margin - is next level good.

 

[Jack Pot]

Perhaps too late.
I don't use a preamp. My phono amplifier has a built-in preamp. My Vivaldi Apex has a - much improved - built-in preamp. My amp is a Burmester 218. Vanishing noise level. Superb dynamics. Huge image. Beautifully modulated sound. I suspect it has no sound signature of its own. Burmester just came out with a new integrated amp (I have not listened to it).