Panzerholz - its application in audio systems

[DasguteOhr]

Do you know where to buy little amount of Panzerholz in Europe?

but you know how expensive that is? 20mm thickness currently costs 350€ per square meter. this is a minimum purchase quantity of 2.2sqm from a wood dealer. maybe you can find leftover sections on ebay much cheaper. Dealer germany

Panzerholz (Panzerhölzer, Kunstharzpresshölzer, Panzer-Hölzer) - 32 Hersteller, Händler & Lieferanten

Panzerholz - 32 Lieferanten aus Deutschland ✓ Österreich ✓ Ukraine und ✓ Russland

www.industrystock.de

 

[davenrk]

but you know how expensive that is? 20mm thickness currently costs 350€ per square meter. this is a minimum purchase quantity of 2.2sqm from a wood dealer. maybe you can find leftover sections on ebay much cheaper. Dealer germany

Panzerholz (Panzerhölzer, Kunstharzpresshölzer, Panzer-Hölzer) - 32 Hersteller, Händler & Lieferanten

Panzerholz - 32 Lieferanten aus Deutschland ✓ Österreich ✓ Ukraine und ✓ Russland

www.industrystock.de

yes I know but I need only a small platform so I'm asking here....

 

[davenrk]

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How much do you need? Whst kind of size should this have? I think the big supplier only ofersfrom 1-2 m^2.
I have some different sizes here. So may you contact me directly here.

I send you a PM thanks

 

[davenrk]

I had some made for personal use by the same Italian firm that manufactured our exhibition furniture.

Hi, could you tell me please the name of the italian furniture firm you mentioned?
thank you

 

[Mike Lavigne]

be careful when shipping wood products. maybe within the EU it's not an issue. but importing wood into the USA has certain requirements. as i own 22 panzerholtz Daiza's, and Tana LPS panzerholtz chassis too, these were all shipped to me and from time to time had issues on this account. this was in cardboard packaging, but were wood products, so it was an issue. you just need the manufacturer/shipper to have the proper documentation to begin with. many times the documentation must be from the source of the wood, not the product manufacturer, and that can be complicated as the manufacturer might need to do some digging to find it.

 

[Taiko Audio]

be careful when shipping wood products. maybe within the EU it's not an issue. but importing wood into the USA has certain requirements. as i own 22 panzerholtz Daiza's, and Tana LPS panzerholtz chassis too, these were all shipped to me and from time to time had issues on this account. this was in cardboard packaging, but were wood products, so it was an issue. you just need the manufacturer/shipper to have the proper documentation to begin with. many times the documentation must be from the source of the wood, not the product manufacturer, and that can be complicated as the manufacturer might need to do some digging to find it.

Fun times

 

[Tuckers]

Does anyone have a source for any of these densified laminates in the USA, or even better, West Coast? I have searched endlessly, but have not found any.

Someone told me about phenolic paper laminates that are available here, but I haven't researched them thoroughly. I'm not sure they are equivalent, as they seem to be mostly resin as opposed to natural materials, so might perform more like plastic than wood.

I'm looking into rebuilding my open baffle speakers using something similar for the baffles.

 

[AMR / iFi audio]

Fun times

And I though our customs can be a pain...

 

[japan-audio]

Phenolic paper is close to Panzerholz but not the same technical way. "Not any car is comparable, even if the have 4 wheels".

 

[Republicoftexas69]

Fun times

My LessLoss DAC is made of this material and had zero issues?

 

[AMR / iFi audio]

My LessLoss DAC is made of this material and had zero issues?

It might be different for pure material vs a finished product.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

It might be different for pure material vs a finished product.

Could very well be.

 

[Taiko Audio]

Could very well be.

It looked more like higher package weights increased the likelihood of closer inspections. Nowadays the situation has improved since electronically submitted documentation is more common and actually looked at by customs.

 

[AMR / iFi audio]

It looked more like higher package weights increased the likelihood of closer inspections. Nowadays the situation has improved since electronically submitted documentation is more common and actually looked at by customs.

Still not the norm in the UK though... But agreed: the bigger/heavier the package is, the more curious the customs get.

 

[rpk]

Hello,
here are some thoughts on the example of Panzerholz vs. aluminium of the audio tool manufacturer Lessloss =

The Virtues of Panzerholz : An Investigation into the Acoustical Properties of Aluminum and Panzerholz

Audiophile marketing is filled with euphoric accolades about the virtues of aluminum. It is supposed to have excellent vibration control characteristics, and many say it gives beautiful tone quality to the music.

www.lessloss.com

https://www.lessloss.com/docs/20130219/LessLoss_Virtues_PRINT.pdf

Firewall Awarded / The Virtues of Panzerholz

The Firewall has been awarded by The SoundStage! Network with the Ultra Audio Select Component Award. The SoundStage! Network is published by Doug Schneider and Jeff Fritz is Editor-In-Chief.

www.lessloss.com

best regards Rainer

PS: I am not related to Lessloss or their shareholder.

 

[AMR / iFi audio]

Hello,
here are some thoughts on the example of Panzerholz vs. aluminium of the audio tool manufacturer Lessloss =

The Virtues of Panzerholz : An Investigation into the Acoustical Properties of Aluminum and Panzerholz

Audiophile marketing is filled with euphoric accolades about the virtues of aluminum. It is supposed to have excellent vibration control characteristics, and many say it gives beautiful tone quality to the music.

www.lessloss.com

https://www.lessloss.com/docs/20130219/LessLoss_Virtues_PRINT.pdf

Firewall Awarded / The Virtues of Panzerholz

The Firewall has been awarded by The SoundStage! Network with the Ultra Audio Select Component Award. The SoundStage! Network is published by Doug Schneider and Jeff Fritz is Editor-In-Chief.

www.lessloss.com

best regards Rainer

PS: I am not related to Lessloss or their shareholder.

Very interesting lecture. One thing I heard from friends in audio is that Panzerholz is a massive pain in the back to machine properly, while Al is one of the easiest.