Ah, well that answers that.
I am in the minority!
Milstein was a great violinist. I am playing that an EMI recording of his Partitas (streamed via Primephonic) right now, as I prepare supper. Superb.
Peter A.’s System: A Perspective on Natural Sound
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I am in the minority!
Milstein was a great violinist. I am playing that an EMI recording of his Partitas (streamed via Primephonic) right now, as I prepare supper. Superb.
Heh.
You don't like Milstein?
Or Bach?
Or Sonatas and Partitas? I understand - perhaps an acquired taste.
How 'bout Grumiaux on the last?
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Granted, it's a video and I have cheapo desktop speakers so maybe I'm missing something. I didn't hear etch or stringency.
I think I cross posted and didna see yr earlier comment.
That's fine if you disagree. It tells me more about your experience relating to videos and gear
No that's true. Ask Tom if he records gear and plays back. Did he compare the video to his system or to a video of his system? I already know the answer
I recorded my ex with this piece once as she was learning it for a competition. Deceptively difficult to play. She also performed it in a house concert prior to the competition along with several other pieces that were with piano (huge Bosendorfer concert grand) . I will never forget the tone and power of a single violin being practiced in a hallway for that piece
Oh no - I love all Bach, and Milstein is superb. I have him on right now.
No, I think the video quality was fine - no, I think we just hear different things, and have different preferences.
There is no question I am very sensitive to what I regard as aggressive front edge, and higher notes in general.
Good man.
Doesn't it speak volumes of me though! Well said.
FWIW - I have heard more than my fair share of horns over years, from single driver (various) to Cessaro to Tune Audio and of course Avantgardes (which I have yet to love regardless of the lungs of it).
I actually love horns and SET's, and would be such a proud owner of Peter's system I cannot say - not that I have anywhere remotely suitable for corner horns.
It matters little I suspect, but my elder sister Fiona played the viola, to national youth orchestra level, obtained a degree in performance in it - so was subjected to endless practice not far from my ears (which over 10 years was something of an ask....). I also played in an orchestra growing up (dreadful trumpet player) so have something of an idea of what I like the sound of.
Grudgingly Fiona could also carry a tune, by the bye.
I don’t think skew rate is the key. Tube amps that sound very clean and natural in the highs are usually not very high skew rate. It has more to do with feedback and interaction with speakers and poor open loop linearity . Read the studies on distortion by Cheever and Geddes and Crowhurst...insightful I think.
Thanks Brad - you know more about this. And thanks for reading Cheever and Geddes and Crowhurst ... so I don't have to.
Oh, I have offended you. I am so sorry. It wasn't any reflection of the video, which I thought was excellent.
You are 100% in all you say. I could not agree more.
I have no experience whatsoever in recording, none in posting videos and, as I may have mentioned, I don't even own any hi fi at this time.
For me - it is only about the music.
I suppose I should not post, and apologize again for any offence given.
It is the last thing I should wish to do.
A violin can sound VERY powerful and forceful Tom. I have made numerous recordings and can tell you that capturing the full dynamic range of a single Strad is a nightmare without gain riding. In a normal room the sound is like a cannon. We can debate about the leading edges but not the size and power of the sound. Maybe you have only heard in a concert hall and then your perspective makes sense?
Nah, you're fine. Keep participating.
Oh yes I agree with you 100%.
No question violin is both dynamic and powerful. I apologize - clumsy words.
When I said amplified - I suppose I should have said it was turned up too loud for me.
I bet a recording is very hard to make. I have absolutely zero experience in it, and yes - you are 100% correct - my experience of violins these days is either where I can afford to sit at the concerts, or more usually in Chamber type settings. Slim pickings since Covid.
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My ex was patronised by one of the richest men in Switzerland because he held an annual competition and she won this in 2002. (They actually gave her both first and second prizes). This opened many doors here. He had a huge house in the middle of Zürich and one floor was like a music salon where they had this huge Bosendorfer. He would get famous (or almost famous) pianists there to play/record and my ex would do concerts with them. She lived at that time on a floor of this house. She was also attending the music conservatory in Zurich at this time and later in Paris under JJ Kantorow. Around that time she got use of a Strad and did four concerts doing the 24 Caprices in one go all from memory. I recorded the practice sessions on analog R2R.
I even posted one caprice on the site here in a thread about violin...
Those horns look like the ones Bert Doppenberg of BD-Designs offers (Swing M3) in the Netherlands. Are they based upon those?
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