Pilium Audio in action-

[Verdier]

To all those who are familiar with Pilium (among other amps):

It would be very interesting to read something about the sound characteristics - preferably in comparison to other top SS amps, for example

- CH Precision
- Vitus
- Gryphon
- Koda.

Thanks!!

 

[itay123]

To all those who are familiar with Pilium (among other amps):

It would be very interesting to read something about the sound characteristics - preferably in comparison to other top SS amps, for example

- CH Precision
- Vitus
- Gryphon
- Koda.

Thanks!!

Hi

I did not make a comparison between Pilium and those brands.

Yet

An acquaintance of mine replaced a Vitus reference set
(3 large boxes)

in Pilium.

Regarding to Ch precision,
Maybe can ask magico

Why did they replace Ch precision with Pilium?

to represent their flagship
The mighty m9 !

Today if I'm not mistaken
Magico has x2 new 2ch flagship Zeus that replaced two Hercules pairs and has the new flagship pre-amp Polaris that replaced the Alexander.

later think the Zeus will be replaced by the new Atlas monoblocks.

Regarding to Koda
Not in the same league
therefore cannot expand.
But know that a very good brand.

Regarding to gryphon
Excellent company.
and their top models are definitely there as for ch precision.

 

[Rhapsody]

Today if I'm not mistaken
Magico has x2 new 2ch flagship Zeus that replaced two Hercules pairs and has the new flagship pre-amp Polaris that replaced the Alexander.

later think the Zeus will be replaced by the new Atlas monoblocks.

For accuracy- At Magico currently there is an Alexander preamp and four each Hercules mono amps. They have been installed for two years now driving the M9s.

The M9's at the Rhapsody-Dallas/Fort Worth location has the new three chassis Pilium Olympus preamp which drives two each Zeus stereo amps, which provide four channels of required amplification for Rhapsody's pari of M9s.

 

[Rhapsody]

To all those who are familiar with Pilium (among other amps):

It would be very interesting to read something about the sound characteristics - preferably in comparison to other top SS amps, for example

- CH Precision
- Vitus
- Gryphon
- Koda.

Thanks!!

You might want to do a comparison of the Pilium sound vs other amplification products if you are attending Munich in May. Pilium will be driving Magico speakers in the Magico room and also be driving Alsyvox Raffaello in the Alsyvox/Pilium/Taiko/Lampizator room.

You will get a good taste of the Pilium sound in these two rooms and then go and listen to the other amplification products that you are interested in. Even though it's "show conditions" Munich is a dream for hearing a whole of all currently available audio products that exist. Can't wait for May to arrive.

 

[itay123]

As mentioned, Munich is a good start for physical and actual familiarization with the various equipment and combinations,

Yet
In order to understand the actual capabilities, you need to DEMO the nature of the product with the accompanying equipment you have as a complete result.

as mentioned, Im personally check equipment that I am interested in my setup

But Munich is definitely a CANDY SHOP that never ends.

By the way, from what I saw under "brands"
on the 2023 Munich exhibition website.

Will there be a combination between Pilium and kaiser acoustics this year ?

attached
Screenshot from the site.

10x for advanced.

 

[Rhapsody]

As mentioned, Munich is a good start for physical and actual familiarization with the various equipment and combinations,

Yet
In order to understand the actual capabilities, you need to DEMO the nature of the product with the accompanying equipment you have as a complete result.

as mentioned, Im personally check equipment that I am interested in my setup

But Munich is definitely a CANDY SHOP that never ends.

By the way, from what I saw under "brands"
on the 2023 Munich exhibition website.

Will there be a combination between Pilium and kaiser acoustics this year ?

attached
Screenshot from the site.

10x for advanced.

I am pretty sure that is a misprint in the exhibitor directory list regarding Kaiser/Pilium showing together. I am checking, but Pilium will be in the two rooms that I mentioned (Magico and Alsyvox) and right now possibly two additional rooms, information forthcoming. I do not think the Pilium will be showing with Kaiser at Munich in May.

 

[Rhapsody]

Itay said; you need to DEMO the nature of the product with the accompanying equipment you have as a complete result.

It's a bit difficult lugging the 160KG/350lb Zues Stereo or Atlas monos around for demos, so I would think that Munich at least can give one a taste of what their sonic performance.

 

[AudioLibertarian]

The wait is finally over and the red Ferrari colour is stunningly beautiful to me even under the natural light inside the room. Now waiting for the Pilium Atlas monoblocks and Olympus preamp to complete this system - they should have been here by now so not sure what caused the delay

The bass is just massive and tight, you can feel it likes a giant hammer slamming and punching. The 15” woofers are super fast and well controlled. I didn’t believe my eyes when seeing how big they are in real life as the 2 wooden crates are taller than my 2m bifolding door and weigh half a ton each @@

With my limited time with the speakers so far, those Sigma Acoustic Maat Vector Xac have revealed things that I couldn’t even hear or notice with my beloved Q5, just a whole new world and music becomes more live and engaging than ever.

I’m not sure how things can be better as it should take up to 6 months for burning in from new to reach the optimum performance.

Aldo has brought his own family, wife and 3 sons from Italy, alongside the local distributor to come over and helped me to set them up, then tuning the speakers for 2 days before they left when everything is close to perfect.

I believe it doesn’t happen everywhere with other brands, so simply incredible and much appreciated for the world class service!

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Congrats! May I ask what is the price for there?

 

[itay123]

Itay said; you need to DEMO the nature of the product with the accompanying equipment you have as a complete result.

It's a bit difficult lugging the 160KG/350lb Zues Stereo or Atlas monos around for demos, so I would think that Munich at least can give one a taste of what their sonic performance.

Hi

I DEMO the Leonidas (100kg)
and as a result
I ordered the Ares + Isonas

The Achilles in black(120kg) came for a DEMO a few weeks later for a decision I need to take.

then I decided to upgrade to Alexander + Achilles preferred the silver touch.

The Munich is the best way to expose and experienced with exotic and unique equipments but in the End you'll have to make a logical decision for your investment.

 

[sonrock]

Congrats! May I ask what is the price for there?

Thank you, my understanding from last year retail price is EUR 163k + VAT and duties, so not sure how it is this year given high inflation etc.

The US retail price is around $210k / EUR 184k based on the distributor’s post on Aldo’s page back in 2019, so still unclear what is the actual price now.

 

[Rhapsody]

As mentioned, Munich is a good start for physical and actual familiarization with the various equipment and combinations,

Yet
In order to understand the actual capabilities, you need to DEMO the nature of the product with the accompanying equipment you have as a complete result.

as mentioned, Im personally check equipment that I am interested in my setup

But Munich is definitely a CANDY SHOP that never ends.

By the way, from what I saw under "brands"
on the 2023 Munich exhibition website.

Will there be a combination between Pilium and kaiser acoustics this year ?

attached
Screenshot from the site.

10x for advanced.

That was a mistake about Pilium/Kaiser. Look now. it shows like this-

Brand Exhibitor Room / Stand

• KAISER ACOUSTICS Ypsilon Electronics A 4.1, E110, A 4.2, E225
• Kaiser Akustik Kaiser GmbH A 4.1, E110

 

[Rhapsody]

Hi

I DEMO the Leonidas (100kg)
and as a result
I ordered the Ares + Isonas

The Achilles in black(120kg) came for a DEMO a few weeks later for a decision I need to take.

then I decided to upgrade to Alexander + Achilles preferred the silver touch.

The Munich is the best way to expose and experienced with exotic and unique equipments but in the End you'll have to make a logical decision for your investment.

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Congrats! You have a good dealer over there! We do the same for our customers especially for Leonidas, Achilles, Alexander. Zeus and Atlas is a bit more challenging. Although if someone is a serious buyer (like you were) even Zeus or Atlas can be set up in a customer's system for a demonstration.

 

[LL21]

Thank you, my understanding from last year retail price is EUR 163k + VAT and duties, so not sure how it is this year given high inflation etc.

The US retail price is around $210k / EUR 184k based on the distributor’s post on Aldo’s page back in 2019, so still unclear what is the actual price now.

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Wasn't there an Orchestra with 4 midrange cones per channel, 2 AMT, and 2 bass cones?

 

[sonrock]

Wasn't there an Orchestra with 4 midrange cones per channel, 2 AMT, and 2 bass cones?

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Yes, they’re actually called Maat Modern instead. The Maat series are completely different from the Orchestra series. They have Maat Classical, Orchestra and Modern versions.

Because they’re too big and difficult to setup so Aldo decided to design and create the Vector with reduced dimensions while keeping all the virtues of the Maat series. It turned out that the Vector is easier to install but heavier than its siblings.

 

[bonzo75]

Wasn't there an Orchestra with 4 midrange cones per channel, 2 AMT, and 2 bass cones?

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the Vector came later, and imo the paper driver midrange is better

Sigma MAAT – Final speakers from Italy – Zero Distortion

zero-distortion.org

 

[sonrock]

Yes I forgot to mention that and Aldo has now used the upgraded woofers in my speakers for better control and dynamic.

What he told me is: “The heart coils magnet and internal parts the same . The cone was with an extra fiber to create a zero break up on big transient . It’s an envelope of the first project to do the best performance.”

 

[LL21]

Yes, they’re actually called Maat Modern instead. The Maat series are completely different from the Orchestra series. They have Maat Classical, Orchestra and Modern versions.

Because they’re too big and difficult to setup so Aldo decided to design and create the Vector with reduced dimensions while keeping all the virtues of the Maat series. It turned out that the Vector is easier to install but heavier than its siblings.

the Vector came later, and imo the paper driver midrange is better

Sigma MAAT – Final speakers from Italy – Zero Distortion

zero-distortion.org

Thanks!

 

[morricab]

the Vector came later, and imo the paper driver midrange is better

Sigma MAAT – Final speakers from Italy – Zero Distortion

zero-distortion.org

The Sigma Orchestra 2.9 looks to be a more "normal" sized speaker compromise that has most of the MAAT Orchestra XAC DNA. It has the papyrus\Alnico mid, Heil AMT and a 15 inch woofer. Couple that with 95dB and an easy load it is still SET friendly (more in the 20 watt and up class though). Any idea on the price?

 

[bonzo75]

The Sigma Orchestra 2.9 looks to be a more "normal" sized speaker compromise that has most of the MAAT Orchestra XAC DNA. It has the papyrus\Alnico mid, Heil AMT and a 15 inch woofer. Couple that with 95dB and an easy load it is still SET friendly (more in the 20 watt and up class though). Any idea on the price?

Retail price is 68k + Vat

 

[morricab]

Retail price is 68k + Vat

Have you heard it?