I agree there is truth to this, especially with tube amps. I experienced this first hand with the Zanden Signature series (with both the line level and phono pres). That said, even though I would be the first to say "give it some time" -- given my Zanden experience -- 500h (as a high end number) just seems way too excessive. It's almost a year's worth of music listening. I mean, it sort of defeats the purpose of evaluating gear.

What I am saying is by this time surely you would get to within 80-90% of MasterSound's sonic signature.
Totally agree that 500 hours is simply too long to be meaningful. My AC Protos probably took close to 200 hours to reach a stable sound; however, it was changing a lot through that period until it stabilized to the awesome sound it now produces.
 
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I left the Italians on overnight, but when I came in this morning I saw that Qobuz crapped out again after only about 2 1/2 hours of songs. I find this happens routinely.

Does your hours long Qobuz playlist sometimes interrupt itself after just two or three hours of playing?
 
On a brighter note (no pun intended), I think I'm finally hearing an improvement in brightness.
 
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200 hours seems like a fairly median belief in the number of hours needed to break in. 500 hours seems like an outlier.
 
Why do you write this?
In itself this doesn’t mean much. It’s in the context of if you return Jadis after a while and you prefer it it’s likely that your preference in general is for Jadis. Provided that’s how things play out at all.
 
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I left the Italians on overnight, but when I came in this morning I saw that Qobuz crapped out again after only about 2 1/2 hours of songs. I find this happens routinely.

Does your hours long Qobuz playlist sometimes interrupt itself after just two or three hours of playing?
Depends on what I'm streaming on Qobuz. I have found in the most dependable stream on my network is Radio Swiss Classic on the vTuner. Their jazz counterpart (Radio Swiss Jazz) is equally reliable. Unless we have an interruption with our electricity it will run for days without issue. From my perspective, the content is not particularly adventurous (that goes for the jazz stream as well) but the SQ and reliability has been very good.

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I can say our Qobuz stream has become more dependable, in general, over time as subsequent software releases have improved functionality and reliability.
 
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Depends on what I'm streaming on Qobuz. I have found in the most dependable stream on my network is Radio Swiss Classic on the vTuner. Their jazz counterpart (Radio Swiss Jazz) is equally reliable. Unless we have an interruption with our electricity it will run for days without issue. From my perspective, the content is not particularly adventurous (that goes for the jazz stream as well) but the SQ and reliability has been very good.

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I can say our Qobuz stream has become more dependable, in general, over time as subsequent software releases have improved functionality and reliability.
Thank you for this report. I am very happy with Qobuz, and I have no interest in exploring any other streaming service. (I have no use for Roon.)

But I do not know why in my set-up the Qobuz playlist sooner or later gets stuck.
 
Thank you for this report. I am very happy with Qobuz, and I have no interest in exploring any other streaming service. (I have no use for Roon.)

But I do not know why in my set-up the Qobuz playlist sooner or later gets stuck.
I share your positive opinion and satisfaction with Qobuz.

No doubt you've looked into this but perhaps your problem lies with your internet provider? Problems with the Qobuz stream where I am located usually are a result of interruptions with the local internet provider, Xfinity gigabit service in my case. It's somewhat rural where I live and we don't have many options. It's fortunate that we have access to high speed internet at all but our service is has been exceptionally reliable regardless.

I hope you can solve your streaming reliability issues.
 
I share your positive opinion and satisfaction with Qobuz.

No doubt you've looked into this but perhaps your problem lies with your internet provider? Problems with the Qobuz stream where I am located usually are a result of interruptions with the local internet provider, Xfinity gigabit service in my case. It's somewhat rural where I live and we don't have many options. It's fortunate that we have access to high speed internet at all but our service is has been exceptionally reliable regardless.

I hope you can solve your streaming reliability issues.
Thank you. I don't think it's a streaming reliability issue.

I feel it may happen when a previously working track on Qobuz gets sort of deactivated or Qobuz loses its license to carry that particular track or something like that? Then that track kind of becomes a zombie track, and the playlist gets stuck?

For example, I know that I used to listen to Louis Armstrong's "St. James Infirmary," and then that track went zombie for a few months, and I noticed recently that I can play it again.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
 
Thank you. I don't think it's a streaming reliability issue.

I feel it may happen when a previously working track on Qobuz gets sort of deactivated or Qobuz loses its license to carry that particular track or something like that? Then that track kind of becomes a zombie track, and the playlist gets stuck?

For example, I know that I used to listen to Louis Armstrong's "St. James Infirmary," and then that track went zombie for a few months, and I noticed recently that I can play it again.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Yes, sometimes when continuously playing I come in to find the music has stopped for some reason. But it doesn't seem to happen nearly as often as you are reporting.

Sound like a question for David Solomon the next time we see him at a show.
 
Yes, sometimes when continuously playing I come in to find the music has stopped for some reason.
What are the circumstances in which you experience this?
 
What are the circumstances in which you experience this?
I have a playlist of about 20-30 songs. I press play on the first song. I verify that the "repeat" button is pushed. (Not repeat song) I leave. When I come back (The next morning or next day or sometimes two or three days later) it has stopped playing. This doesn't happen often.

Of note: I use Roon.
 
I have a playlist of about 20-30 songs. I press play on the first song. I verify that the "repeat" button is pushed. (Not repeat song) I leave. When I come back (The next morning or next day or sometimes two or three days later) it has stopped playing. This doesn't happen often.

Of note: I use Roon.
Thank you.
 

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