Ron's Speaker, Turntable, Power and Room Treatment Upgrades

[dan31]

When you finish with that Pioneer player send it to me. I need the transport as a back up for my Ayre disc spinner.

Thanks

 

[Ron Resnick]

The answer to your question is yes.
I assume you would be streaming from the streamer you just ordered. That shows the pitfall of making an assumption. I further assume you have three options.
1. The Pioneer Elite as a standalone unit.
2. The Pioneer/Baltic combo
3.Innous Pulse mini/Baltic
A further assumption. It will be 1& 2 vs 3.
I predict 3 will be the winner.
I have previously stated the Pioneer Elite may be limited by the quality of available software. Another assumption.
BTW for $99 I want that cd player.

I have a feeling that Pioneer as transport —> Baltic 3 is going to sound wonderful on an absolute basis, and be amazingly good sound value for money.

 

[Ron Resnick]

When you finish with that Pioneer player send it to me. I need the transport as a back up for my Ayre disc spinner.

Thanks

At $170 for NOS brand-new-in-the-box I am keeping him!

 

[Gregadd]

I have a feeling that Pioneer as transport —> Baltic 3 is going to sound wonderful on an absolute basis, and be amazingly good sound value for money.

i hope you are right. Sounds as though you have an impressive cd collection.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Ron, I took your post to be in that it sounded better, not that it was easier. Some of my Boston area friends prefer the sound of physical CDs to streaming in their systems. At least they did a couple years ago when I last talked to them about it. You can discuss with Ack and Al M.

Hmmm. I wrote “easier.” Right now CD is beating iPad streaming (which I would expect), but it is correct that iPad streaming is not proper streaming and it is not a proper or fair comparison to CD.

 

[Ron Resnick]

i hope you are right. Sounds as though you have an impressive cd collection.

I have about 20 CDs.

 

[dan31]

At $170 for NOS brand-new-in-the-box I am keeping him!

Ron, you don’t like digital. That Pioneer will only break in and sound better. I am saving you from liking it and having trouble.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Ron, you don’t like digital. That Pioneer will only break in and sound better. I am saving you from liking it and having trouble.

Thank you for trying to save me from myself!

 

[Folsom]

I agree so far that streaming sounds more homogenous. If I hear different I’ll say it.

 

[Ron Resnick]

When you finish with that Pioneer player send it to me. I need the transport as a back up for my Ayre disc spinner.

Thanks

Even if I just keep it on the shelf I think it’s nice to have a working CD player for playing test CDs and diagnostics.

 

[PeterA]

No, I did not. I played only Bill Henderson's "Send in the Clowns." I felt that on that track David's system transformed the room into the most realistic reproduction of a live jazz club I had ever experienced from an audio system.

Ron, I seem to remember you posting a video of "Send in the Clowns" on your new system. If I am not mistaken, could you please share a link so that I can revisit it? Thank you.

 

[spiritofmusic]

Please, send in anyone else than the clowns.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Ron, I seem to remember you posting a video of "Send in the Clowns" on your new system. If I am not mistaken, could you please share a link so that I can revisit it? Thank you.

I don't keep those videos.

 

[PeterA]

No, I did not. I played only Bill Henderson's "Send in the Clowns." I felt that on that track David's system transformed the room into the most realistic reproduction of a live jazz club I had ever experienced from an audio system.

Ron, given your extensive travels to hear big systems since you made this comment 3 1/2 years ago and the evolution of your own system, does this comment still hold or have you heard other systems in your top tier of seven all time favorites that now present a more convincing performance of your favorite genre and this particular track, “Send in the clowns”?

 

[Ron Resnick]

Ron, given your extensive travels to hear big systems since you made this comment 3 1/2 years ago and the evolution of your own system, does this comment still hold or have you heard other systems in your top tier of seven all time favorites that now present a more convincing performance of your favorite genre and this particular track, “Send in the clowns”?

That is an excellent question!

Circa 2015 to 2017 I routinely carried that LP among several LPs around with me. I haven't done that in a few years. So I have not heard that song routinely across these big systems.

Another big problem is that how could I possibly remember an accurate impression of the sound of a particular system from years ago?

 

[PeterA]

That is an excellent question!

Circa 2015 to 2017 I routinely carried that LP among several LPs around with me. I haven't done that in a few years. So I have not heard that song routinely across these big systems.

Another big problem is that how could I possibly remember an accurate impression of the sound of a particular system from years ago?

Thank you.

You may not be able to remember specifics about the sound, but inherent in your comment is the memory of having heard that recording on other systems and determined what you heard in Utah was the most influential in terms of re-creating live jazz club atmosphere. so some sonic memory about some emotion or something in effect for you to make the comment in the first place. We remember the quality of experiences when listening to certain systems were live concerts years later. We are remembering something.

I’m curious why you changed your routine to judge systems. Why do you not carry around those records when you go to shows and hear some of these super systems around the country?

 

[Ron Resnick]

so some sonic memory about some emotion or something in effect for you to make the comment in the first place.

We are remembering something.

In a subjective hobby it is very difficult to maintain analytical or methodological integrity about almost anything. "Remembering something" from years ago simply is not good enough for me -- it does not meet remotely my own personal "smell test" -- for publishing comparative impressions versus a system I have heard recently.

 

[PeterA]

In a subjective hobby it is very difficult to maintain analytical or methodological integrity about almost anything. "Remembering something" from years ago simply is not good enough for me -- it does not meet remotely my own personal "smell test" -- for publishing comparative impressions versus a system I have heard recently.

OK, thank you for explaining. When you rank groups of systems together and start a thread about it, or you refer to the sound of one system sounding like a jazz club, what are you actually basing those comments and judgements on if not comparisons based on memory? Is it just the length of time between experiences that is relevant for you and that immediate experience and recall?

 

[Ron Resnick]

Is it just the length of time between experiences that is relevant for you and that immediate experience and recall?

It's the length of time between experiences and the strength of imprint of the sonic attributes of the system I can recall.

 

[Ron Resnick]

When you rank groups of systems together and start a thread about it, or you refer to the sound of one system sounding like a jazz club

I think it is easier for me to recall the general and overall believability of a room + system for the purpose of ranking the rooms + systems in tiers, than it is to remember sufficiently the detailed specifics of one system versus another system.