Surely - I saw his great work and patents when I quoted his firm activity from its site. I am just an audiophile, not an expert in audio. Where is the disrespect?
But the technical points you referred can be explained by his professional interests.Stereophile and Magico
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Surely - I saw his great work and patents when I quoted his firm activity from its site. I am just an audiophile, not an expert in audio. Where is the disrespect?
But the technical points you referred can be explained by his professional interests.
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And what about the maxx 3 compared to the M 5 , i think i saw you selling a pair a couple of years ago on the net ??
And what about the maxx 3 compared to the M 5 , i think i saw you selling a pair a couple of years ago on the net ??
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LOL. Nice try. I bet Magico is grateful for your approval.
i hope they are. we have another audiophile in the house, a potential client
Lucky girl!! I'll never forget the first time my daughter heard vinyl as a teen. i had packed up the albums when the girls were young. When the youngest became a teen and was interested in music, her jaw hit the floor upon hearing a Rega 3 instead of a CD. She's heard my YG and Magico speakers, but alas, she's a devout Wilson fan (heard the Sophias at a local store and fell in love). Already planning for her system as a 22 yo!! As an aside, the industry really is missing future women as audiophiles. They should be marketing them hard.
Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
LOL. Nice try. I bet Magico is grateful for your approval.
i hope they are. we have another audiophile in the house, a potential client
Lucky girl!! I'll never forget the first time my daughter heard vinyl as a teen. i had packed up the albums when the girls were young. When the youngest became a teen and was interested in music, her jaw hit the floor upon hearing a Rega 3 instead of a CD. She's heard my YG and Magico speakers, but alas, she's a devout Wilson fan (heard the Sophias at a local store and fell in love). Already planning for her system as a 22 yo!! As an aside, the industry really is missing future women as audiophiles. They should be marketing them hard.
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Night and day, as the audiophiles say. The Maxx 3 had a forward balance, with lots of presence, sometimes holographic and punch in the bass. The M5 shined for its exceptional layering, fine detail and depth of image - a great speaker for classic music. I appreciated the string tone of the M5 a lot. Please consider that I owned the Maxx3 for a couple of years, the several times I listened to the M5 was not in my system, although I knew the room and system pretty well.
I've always liked the M5. And those seem to fit in well with the room and artwork. It reminds me of the pre-war apartments in NYC. I think I notice some Transparent Audio speaker cables. I like that particular pairing, and recently noticed at the Magico factory, that they have Transparent cables hooked up to their giant CAT tube amps in their SOTA listening room. Your system must sound great.
i dont know whether it is the new driver set or the curved top plate or whatever, but the mkii and s7 sound like two different speakers to me. top end is more airy and the sound comes more easily and freely out of the enclosure, a quality I would normally associate with high efficiency speakers. my musical diet is almost exclusively contemporary classical, free jazz, i.e 21th century stuff that does away with melody, harmony or rhythm. so i look at the "freedom from the box" aspect and flow when listening to equipment. s7 could cater for more traditional music/listeners but from where i look their sound is more deeply rooted in their enclosures and have less ease and less flow.
The S7 and the S5 Mk2 have the same mids and trebles (not sure about the bass). Did you listen in the same set up?
They are the same. I researched the matter before buying the S5 Mk2 (I was considering the S7, but it was out of my price range - I was very happy to hear the drivers are the same, I like the S7 very much).
Not sure why they give drivers different model numbers, but the S1 Mk2, S5 Mk2 and S7 all have the same tweeters and the S5Mk 2 and S7 have the same mid.
Thank you, I can't wait, and if they are better then the S7, I wont complain
. Don't think I want to hear the M3, seriously, not for some time now...
Thank you, I can't wait, and if they are better then the S7, I wont complain
Thanks for your feedback mcduman
Cannata, let us know what you think when yours come in!
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Cannata,
I'm not sure if this is progress as far as you are concerned, but here's a little tidbit from Fremer's recent blog. As you can tell, Mr. Fremer actually is not afraid to speak his mind, unlike the stale characters that Wolf uses as his pet parrots...
"...Also in attendance was Magico's Alon Wolf, who, in the upstairs listening room was debuting the new Magico M3 speaker (appx. $82,000). Electronics were CH Precision, C1 DAC/Pre-amp, D1 SACD/CD drive, L1 preamplifier, P1 phono preamplifier, M1 mono-blocks and X1 power-supply, The turntable was the DeBaer with Ortofon MC Anna. Cabling was AudioQuest Wel signature.
As I told Mr. Wolff after sitting through his demo for consumers, I thought it was too loud and the musical choices not sufficiently varied to show off the speakers' capabilities. The people who design and/or own companies are not necessarily the people who should do musical demos!
This is something I learned a long time ago that this experience only confirmed and I wasn't shy in telling him. Members of the San Francisco Audio Society also in attendance agreed. However, obvious from the demo was the superb sonics of the newly developed tweeter and the room's big mid bass hump that was not the speaker's fault, but why play the system sufficiently loud to excite it?
Later after the crowds had mostly left, Mr. Wolf and I listened to 96/24 vinyl rips I'd brought on a USB stick, including the entire second side of an original UK pressing of Abbey Road. Wherever I start that side, it always ends up going for the entire side!
Wolf's reference was the recent stereo re-master and this rip just made him shake his head in disbelief. The sound produced by this system was very, very impressive in every way. These speakers do what Magico does best but for a very "reasonable" cost compared to some of the line's more expensive products: superb linearity and revelation of inner-detail. The room issues prevented any kind of accurate take on the speaker's bottom end.
However, it was the downstairs system located in a big entry room that you really couldn't call a "listening room" and which had no business sounding as it did in that location, that really impressed me. It consisted of a pair of Kharma Exquisite Midi-Grand loudspeakers, CH Precision electronics, the aforementioned Spiral Groove SG 1.2/Kiseki Purple Heart combo that I set up and Audioquest Wel Signature interconnects and Kharma Grand Reference speaker cables..."
I wonder if they smoked a big, fat J before putting the Beatles on. It is San Francisco, after all.
Read more at http://www.analogplanet.com/content...dio-systems-san-francisco#5eLfg6CHLQ8Qab4M.99
I'm not sure if this is progress as far as you are concerned, but here's a little tidbit from Fremer's recent blog. As you can tell, Mr. Fremer actually is not afraid to speak his mind, unlike the stale characters that Wolf uses as his pet parrots...
"...Also in attendance was Magico's Alon Wolf, who, in the upstairs listening room was debuting the new Magico M3 speaker (appx. $82,000). Electronics were CH Precision, C1 DAC/Pre-amp, D1 SACD/CD drive, L1 preamplifier, P1 phono preamplifier, M1 mono-blocks and X1 power-supply, The turntable was the DeBaer with Ortofon MC Anna. Cabling was AudioQuest Wel signature.
As I told Mr. Wolff after sitting through his demo for consumers, I thought it was too loud and the musical choices not sufficiently varied to show off the speakers' capabilities. The people who design and/or own companies are not necessarily the people who should do musical demos!
This is something I learned a long time ago that this experience only confirmed and I wasn't shy in telling him. Members of the San Francisco Audio Society also in attendance agreed. However, obvious from the demo was the superb sonics of the newly developed tweeter and the room's big mid bass hump that was not the speaker's fault, but why play the system sufficiently loud to excite it?
Later after the crowds had mostly left, Mr. Wolf and I listened to 96/24 vinyl rips I'd brought on a USB stick, including the entire second side of an original UK pressing of Abbey Road. Wherever I start that side, it always ends up going for the entire side!
Wolf's reference was the recent stereo re-master and this rip just made him shake his head in disbelief. The sound produced by this system was very, very impressive in every way. These speakers do what Magico does best but for a very "reasonable" cost compared to some of the line's more expensive products: superb linearity and revelation of inner-detail. The room issues prevented any kind of accurate take on the speaker's bottom end.
However, it was the downstairs system located in a big entry room that you really couldn't call a "listening room" and which had no business sounding as it did in that location, that really impressed me. It consisted of a pair of Kharma Exquisite Midi-Grand loudspeakers, CH Precision electronics, the aforementioned Spiral Groove SG 1.2/Kiseki Purple Heart combo that I set up and Audioquest Wel Signature interconnects and Kharma Grand Reference speaker cables..."
I wonder if they smoked a big, fat J before putting the Beatles on. It is San Francisco, after all.
Read more at http://www.analogplanet.com/content...dio-systems-san-francisco#5eLfg6CHLQ8Qab4M.99
Been busy listening to my new S5 Mk2, it is the honeymoon phase, and I am in still in shock to how good they are, did not expect such and improvement over the Mk1. I sure hope JA will review them, will see if he agrees
Read your link; MF is just about the only guy who is not going gaga after the new M3, but then again he never did for any Magico product, so it is just as predictable. They all speak their mind, the question is what kind of mind do they have to speak of
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