Taiko Audio Daiza platforms.

[Levitator]

Thanks Mike - one question, the naked small panzerholtz under the gear chassis, have you got a picture of these? I’m assuming this is different to the copper foam filled footers used under the Daiza platform….just haven’t seen these smaller ones you’re referring to

Thanks!

 

[Mike Lavigne]

these are the same pucks attached to the copper rounds, just 'naked' (copper rounds detached) and used in a different spot.

use three per piece of gear. foam side down in the place of the stock gear footers. if these are not as tall as the gear footers then remove the gear footers. these panzerholtz hollow pucks allow for an ideal interface between the Daiza top surface and the chassis bottom. eliminates smear (stock footers many times tend to cause) yet is lively and propulsive for the music. according to Emile the weight capacity of these pucks is like over 1000 pounds each. so that is not an issue.

an alternative are the CMS footers which many combine with the Daiza; these are 'free' in comparison. never compared the effect myself so won't even speculate. but these take no time to 'settle'. panzerholtz does not compress. the Daiza shelf/footers themselves do settle for a time.

currently in my system i have unused Daiza's and unused pucks since i've changed things around so much. normally i would not have unused ones to photograph.

 

[heebrog]

Hi Mike. Do you use this under the Extreme instead of the "feet" on Extreme?

 

[Levitator]

these are the same pucks attached to the copper rounds, just 'naked' (copper rounds detached) and used in a different spot.

use three per piece of gear. foam side down in the place of the stock gear footers. if these are not as tall as the gear footers then remove the gear footers. these panzerholtz hollow pucks allow for an ideal interface between the Daiza top surface and the chassis bottom. eliminates smear (stock footers many times tend to cause) yet is lively and propulsive for the music. according to Emile the weight capacity of these pucks is like over 1000 pounds each. so that is not an issue.

an alternative are the CMS footers which many combine with the Daiza; these are 'free' in comparison. never compared the effect myself so won't even speculate. but these take no time to 'settle'. panzerholtz does not compress. the Daiza shelf/footers themselves do settle for a time.

currently in my system i have unused Daiza's and unused pucks since i've changed things around so much. normally i would not have unused ones to photograph.

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Thanks Mike, much appreciated!

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Hi Mike. Do you use this under the Extreme instead of the "feet" on Extreme?

yes.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Mike - have you tried a Daiza under any of your TTs yet? I have been meaning to.

Best.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Mike - have you tried a Daiza under any of your TTs yet? I have been meaning to.

Best.

other than the Daiza that is part of the Tana system used with the NVS; no, not yet.

for either the CS Port or Saskia i would need an over-sized Daiza, and i've simply not gone there yet. i have no doubt it would be a winner for both. likely want to paint them black. possibly needs 6 copper footers. and i would not use the little pucks on top.

it would be very heavy.

 

[cmarin]

these are the same pucks attached to the copper rounds, just 'naked' (copper rounds detached) and used in a different spot.

use three per piece of gear. foam side down in the place of the stock gear footers. if these are not as tall as the gear footers then remove the gear footers. these panzerholtz hollow pucks allow for an ideal interface between the Daiza top surface and the chassis bottom. eliminates smear (stock footers many times tend to cause) yet is lively and propulsive for the music. according to Emile the weight capacity of these pucks is like over 1000 pounds each. so that is not an issue.

an alternative are the CMS footers which many combine with the Daiza; these are 'free' in comparison. never compared the effect myself so won't even speculate. but these take no time to 'settle'. panzerholtz does not compress. the Daiza shelf/footers themselves do settle for a time.

currently in my system i have unused Daiza's and unused pucks since i've changed things around so much. normally i would not have unused ones to photograph.

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Mike.

Thank you for clarifying how you position the footers in your system. I’m a big believer in the Daiza platforms and use two on as many components where rack spacing allows it.

But even though Emile has explained the way to position the small pucks, I always read any comments on positioning because I fear I may be using them incorrectly! Ha!

In any case, for those interested, I did have the opportunity to add four of the new Critical Mass Center Stage 2M 1.5” tall footers between the Extreme and the top Daiza platform. The top Daiza in turn rested on a second Daiza platform with Copper disks and footers as outlined in your post above.

There were concerns expressed by some that the Daiza and CMS technologies would interfere. To the contrary, I found the effect quite complimentary and it produced a significant improvement in reducing the noise floor.

The CMS footers are significantly more expensive then the Daiza’s smaller footers, so together they create relatively economical and effective package. YMMV

 

[Cellcbern]

these are the same pucks attached to the copper rounds, just 'naked' (copper rounds detached) and used in a different spot.

use three per piece of gear. foam side down in the place of the stock gear footers. if these are not as tall as the gear footers then remove the gear footers. these panzerholtz hollow pucks allow for an ideal interface between the Daiza top surface and the chassis bottom. eliminates smear (stock footers many times tend to cause) yet is lively and propulsive for the music. according to Emile the weight capacity of these pucks is like over 1000 pounds each. so that is not an issue.

an alternative are the CMS footers which many combine with the Daiza; these are 'free' in comparison. never compared the effect myself so won't even speculate. but these take no time to 'settle'. panzerholtz does not compress. the Daiza shelf/footers themselves do settle for a time.

currently in my system i have unused Daiza's and unused pucks since i've changed things around so much. normally i would not have unused ones to photograph.

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Curious if you are aware of any type of spike shoe (e.g., solid brass, steel, or Yamamoto ebony?) that would work well on top of a Daiza platform? If I were to try a Daiza under my Pathos TT amp I would need four spike cups of some kind between the amp and Daiza platform. The Pathos TT has a cylindrical post that terminates in an integral spike in each of the amp's four corners. These posts/spikes are the only parts of the chassis designed to bear the amp's 90 lb. weight.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Curious if you are aware of any type of spike shoe (e.g., solid brass, steel, or Yamamoto ebony?) that would work well on top of a Daiza platform? If I were to try a Daiza under my Pathos TT amp I would need four spike cups of some kind between the amp and Daiza platform. The Pathos TT has a cylindrical post that terminates in an integral spike in each of the amp's four corners. These posts/spikes are the only parts of the chassis designed to bear the amp's 90 lb. weight.

i'm sure Emile would have the best information about that. i have briefly had cones on top of a Daiza directly on the top layer. it seemed to work ok. but they were shallow cones and not sharp spikes. agree some sort of shoe makes sense. mostly i've used the small foam filled pucks as the chassis<->Daiza interface.

 

[wil]

Is there any circumstance where one would take out the foam insert on the underside of the Daiza in the holes where the copper disc footers fit?

 

[Taiko Audio]

Is there any circumstance where one would take out the foam insert on the underside of the Daiza in the holes where the copper disc footers fit?

Only if you position the Daiza on a carpeted floor.

 

[Taiko Audio]

Curious if you are aware of any type of spike shoe (e.g., solid brass, steel, or Yamamoto ebony?) that would work well on top of a Daiza platform? If I were to try a Daiza under my Pathos TT amp I would need four spike cups of some kind between the amp and Daiza platform. The Pathos TT has a cylindrical post that terminates in an integral spike in each of the amp's four corners. These posts/spikes are the only parts of the chassis designed to bear the amp's 90 lb. weight.

Anything non compliant (rubbery) will do.

 

[Hamburger]

Is the Daiza still in production and for sale?

 

[Taiko Audio]

Is the Daiza still in production and for sale?

Yes but material availability is poor. We prioritize existing customers.

 

[howiebrou]

Only if you position the Daiza on a carpeted floor.

Or on grass...

 

[Backo NYC/SF]

This is true. Using these between the Daiza and Extreme though you’d make less use of what the Daiza “does”. Not important if it nets out positive ofcourse!

Hi Emile,
I’m using a Daiza under my Extreme right now (thank you very much, btw) and was considering using a Daiza under my Aqua La Scala. I have the La Scala on three isolation feet that Trevor from Massif Audio sent me that are Ebony pucks (2.5” in diameter x .75” thick approx.) that sandwich a metal bearing between them. I’ve been following this thread but want to double check as to whether you think they would work with the Daiza or if you have had better results with other footers.
Thanks!

 

[Taiko Audio]

Those should work just fine, definitely better then the supplied rubber footers!

 

[Backo NYC/SF]

Those should work just fine, definitely better then the supplied rubber footers!

Hi Emile,
So i am using Stein Music Super Natural Signatures under my phono pre and PS. I was considering using their Basics under the Aqua LaScala instead of the ones I described above. I wasn’t sure, based on your previous posts if the composition of the Steins were compatable with the Daiza or if i was going down the wrong rabbit hole.
Thanks.

 

[Taiko Audio]

Hi Emile,
So i am using Stein Music Super Natural Signatures under my phono pre and PS. I was considering using their Basics under the Aqua LaScala instead of the ones I described above. I wasn’t sure, based on your previous posts if the composition of the Steins were compatable with the Daiza or if i was going down the wrong rabbit hole.
Thanks.

Those will work just fine!