garylkoh
WBF Technical Expert (Speakers & Audio Equipment)
From what I understood from my Malaysian audiophile friends, the used price of Micro Seiki decks have doubled in Singapore/Malaysia since the beginning of the year....
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From what I understood from my Malaysian audiophile friends, the used price of Micro Seiki decks have doubled in Singapore/Malaysia since the beginning of the year....
>do these come up for sale fairly often on japanese markets
No, my impression is that it is very, very rare for a SZ-1 to appear for sale. I don't think that many of these were made to begin with. My guess would be 50 units, max.
>did you purchase yours new before the demise of Micro Seiki?
Yes, I bought mine in the 1980s. When I had an issue with it, Nishikawa-san was the person who took care of it (grin).
I've compared it to an 8000-II, which I am confident that the SZ-1 betters, but not to a TechDas AF1. I've only heard and played with the AF1 at various audio shows (the AF1 was first unveiled at the Tokyo International Audio Show a few years back, and Nishikawa-san enthusiastically walked me through what he had accomplished. This was before final production, but I still remember what a huge grin he had (smile). Most likely the AF1 is Nishikawa-san's chance to successfully conclude all of the uncompleted design work that he accumulated while at Micro (I know that feeling well).
At any rate, I took quite a few pictures of the AF1, and posted them on Audiogon AFAIR.
Today, I'd imagine that Nishikawa-san is back-ordered and ships every completed AF1 out the door as fast as possible.
I doubt that there is any demonstrator unit that I could borrow for in-home testing. Maybe in some months (not that I could afford one in any case - grin).
kind regards, jonathan
No, my impression is that it is very, very rare for a SZ-1 to appear for sale. I don't think that many of these were made to begin with. My guess would be 50 units, max.
>did you purchase yours new before the demise of Micro Seiki?
Yes, I bought mine in the 1980s. When I had an issue with it, Nishikawa-san was the person who took care of it (grin).
I've compared it to an 8000-II, which I am confident that the SZ-1 betters, but not to a TechDas AF1. I've only heard and played with the AF1 at various audio shows (the AF1 was first unveiled at the Tokyo International Audio Show a few years back, and Nishikawa-san enthusiastically walked me through what he had accomplished. This was before final production, but I still remember what a huge grin he had (smile). Most likely the AF1 is Nishikawa-san's chance to successfully conclude all of the uncompleted design work that he accumulated while at Micro (I know that feeling well).
At any rate, I took quite a few pictures of the AF1, and posted them on Audiogon AFAIR.
Today, I'd imagine that Nishikawa-san is back-ordered and ships every completed AF1 out the door as fast as possible.
I doubt that there is any demonstrator unit that I could borrow for in-home testing. Maybe in some months (not that I could afford one in any case - grin).
kind regards, jonathan
garylkoh
WBF Technical Expert (Speakers & Audio Equipment)
Thanks for your response jonathan, it's probably a good thing I haven't seen a SZ-1 for sale I dare say the price would be quite intimidating.
Looks like i'll have to start saving my pennies for an AF1 or hope nishikawa-san delivers 90% of it with the debut of the AF2 in November.
Any chance of posting some high resolution photos of your SZ-1?
Cheers Jason
The SZ1 is in storage. My present quarters don't have the space for accommodate such a beastie (grin).
The turntable that I use most these days is the Marantz TT-1000, a comely DD which just so happened to be OEMed by Micro.
kind regards, jonathan
The turntable that I use most these days is the Marantz TT-1000, a comely DD which just so happened to be OEMed by Micro.
kind regards, jonathan
Okay, so I am officially in the TechDAS manufacturing cue. Looks like it will be towards the end of August for delivery. Yee Haw !!!! I will be running the Elite 10" in the primary slot and a 12" Supreme for the rear slot, most likely for a mono cart. I am still keeping my CA Master Innovation on the Table Stable.
Here's a crazy idea, but it is done with high end cars sometimes- a photo record of the build, that they could put together in a book. I assume the tables are numbered. Nice keepsake for an investment of this scale.
Looking forward to your having this!
garylkoh
WBF Technical Expert (Speakers & Audio Equipment)
Congratulations Christian - by chance do you have a DSD recorder? I would love to compare a good LP played directly using the Forsell with a DSD recording of the same LP played using the TechDAS. Just for scientific purposes, surely ...
I'll be glad to break it in for you
And I would be glad to keep Christian's CA Master Innovation warmed up and ready to play music.
Congrat's Christian! I would love to hear about the result of trying it on the Table Stable vs without.
hey guy after many ready me and my friend think we should let some of our secret weapons in this place . I'm sure this may be the one in life time to see this for some one !!!
let make fun
the all picture after this will be the evident of something many guy talking here with 30 year old technology and secret that only a few people see
for the less than 50 unit in the world as Jcarr said.
The never show in any web site and i ask my friend to allow to show ( he is secret guy)
it the legend turntable top model of micro seiki alive !!! THE SZ1
let make fun
the all picture after this will be the evident of something many guy talking here with 30 year old technology and secret that only a few people see
for the less than 50 unit in the world as Jcarr said.
The never show in any web site and i ask my friend to allow to show ( he is secret guy)
it the legend turntable top model of micro seiki alive !!! THE SZ1
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me and my friend has been collect full range of micro seiki air system turntable . and this is micro seiki SZ1 that know as the holy grail of micro seiki
yes they have two version of platter because the platter can be use with Sx5000 II and SX 8000 II . I think gold look better for this turntable.
actually SZ1 have a base call BA 100 with air suspension system ( not show in the picture ) all system weight almost 200 Kg . this SZ1 has bigger base than sx 8000II and more heavy so this will make it more stable than sx 8000II and both them use same air bearing system . but the motor total difference
the motor of SZ1 using air bearing too!!! while SX8000II has no air bearing for motor.
so come and see , this may the first time for reveal on web . Be attention you may not see anywhere in the world hahaha
yes they have two version of platter because the platter can be use with Sx5000 II and SX 8000 II . I think gold look better for this turntable.
actually SZ1 have a base call BA 100 with air suspension system ( not show in the picture ) all system weight almost 200 Kg . this SZ1 has bigger base than sx 8000II and more heavy so this will make it more stable than sx 8000II and both them use same air bearing system . but the motor total difference
the motor of SZ1 using air bearing too!!! while SX8000II has no air bearing for motor.
so come and see , this may the first time for reveal on web . Be attention you may not see anywhere in the world hahaha
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as you see in the picture the motor unit of SZ1 it name SZ1 M . it very difference from any micro seiki motor because the case of unit has use for motor body this mean this motor case unit is a motor !!! this make motor so stable by weight .
next you will see glass on the top and the fly wheel . how it work ?
the motor shaft will connect to fly wheel and fly wheel will fly on glass by air ( this call air bearing same as patter theory)
so this mean motor shaft will fly by air bearing too . result is no vertical pressure force for motor shaft and make motor more quiet and smooth rotation
while fly wheel weight will increase moment of inertia for motor result of stable rotation and rpm .
so i can say this motor rotate like a fly !!!!
ps fly wheel made form standless steel
next you will see glass on the top and the fly wheel . how it work ?
the motor shaft will connect to fly wheel and fly wheel will fly on glass by air ( this call air bearing same as patter theory)
so this mean motor shaft will fly by air bearing too . result is no vertical pressure force for motor shaft and make motor more quiet and smooth rotation
while fly wheel weight will increase moment of inertia for motor result of stable rotation and rpm .
so i can say this motor rotate like a fly !!!!
ps fly wheel made form standless steel
next is air pump the SZ1 use massive air pump box name RP 999 ( if you know asia traditional they always use number 9 for most top thing)
it very big when compare to 2x RP 1110 on the side
and in side they have 3 air pump and cover by big special metal case ( this i can't imagine how expensive while they make form for the metal case for only 50 unit ) and it almost 30 year old . this mean this thing must be very very special product and reasonable to make it !!!
it very big when compare to 2x RP 1110 on the side
and in side they have 3 air pump and cover by big special metal case ( this i can't imagine how expensive while they make form for the metal case for only 50 unit ) and it almost 30 year old . this mean this thing must be very very special product and reasonable to make it !!!
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and here me and my friend have all whole rang of micro seiki air bearing system so we can compare AB test .
like if my friend buy i buy , If i buy my friend will buy too so we almost have everything double in house except wife haha.
by the way to Mr. Jcarr I'm appreciate for your best cartridge atlas and many model we bought , but don't let SZ1 in your storage just bring them back to life !!!! or sell to me please !!! haha
i'm sure that it better than DD IT 8000 you use now ....
ps we are collector not seller we will not sell our item but if you want to sell we will buy !!!
like if my friend buy i buy , If i buy my friend will buy too so we almost have everything double in house except wife haha.
by the way to Mr. Jcarr I'm appreciate for your best cartridge atlas and many model we bought , but don't let SZ1 in your storage just bring them back to life !!!! or sell to me please !!! haha
i'm sure that it better than DD IT 8000 you use now ....
ps we are collector not seller we will not sell our item but if you want to sell we will buy !!!
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