TechDAS tonearm Air Force 10

[Erik-Alexander]

What about the Techdas AF10 arm? Or is this an overkill for the AF3? But with the top TD dia cartridge?

Or even; would you prefer the AF10 or the Kuzma Sapphire?

 

[JackD201]

Wow mtemur, I have never had to adjust azimuth that much ever. Those pics are shocking. You've got me knocking on wood, I never have to go through that myself.

 

[DasguteOhr]

Kuzma Safir is a much better arm and sounds very good when matched with Techdas cartridge IMHO. You can upgrade Graham armwand to titanium Techdas version, rest is the same. Azimuth assembly is the same for both versions and obviously problem applies to both Graham Elite and Techdas.

Graham have titanium arrmwand too, but its really expensive.

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Phantom Elite: Reference Tonarm Armwand in den Längen 9", 10" und 12" von Graham Engineering

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Graham Elite is a good arm but in direct comparison with TW 10.5 you notice a few impurities in the bass and treble frequencies with the same pickup. These are probably due to the stability in the bearing. My opinion.

P.S
oh if you adjust VTA always tighten the screw afterwards.

 

[mtemur]

Today I listened Techdas AF10 tonearm together with new Techdas DIA cartridge. It was a pretty impressive sound, open, detailed, never being harsh or edgy. It was in line with what we heard in Tokyo last year. I spent around 3 hours in local distributor’s show room listening this setup with Kharma Veyron 2D speakers. Volume was very high without distortion and fatigue, I enjoyed a lot. Both the speakers and tonearm/cartridge combo were fabulous. Simply out of this world. My only reservation is the bass. It was great but could have been better to be amazing.

 

[JackD201]

If you are going back to the Tokyo show this year, let's meet up

 

[Peterhongkong]

Good morning from Hong Kong! Wow - many thanks for the info and report and that's sounds very impressive. What a set up - incl a great front end. Did you have the time to listen = compare the AF10 with the Thales Statement arm?

 

[TLi]

If you are going back to the Tokyo show this year, let's meet up

I shall be back to Munich and Tokyo this year. We can have a gathering and some good time together.

In my system, TechDAS Dia cartridge sounds better with 12" wand. I have both 10" and 12" wands. The armboard can be used to mount both lengths, just turn it over, it is a very clever design. TechDAS Dia is too sharp with 10" wand and 12" is just right. Vinyl playback requires matching of all parameters, it may sound better with 10" in your system.

 

[mtemur]

What a set up - incl a great front end. Did you have the time to listen = compare the AF10 with the Thales Statement arm?

No, a mono ZYX cartridge was installed on the Thales arm. The real star of the setup was the Kharma Veyron 2D speakers. I listened to those speakers with:

• Full CH electronics, including double M1.1 amplifiers

• Full Kondo electronics and cables, with Gakuoh II amplifiers

• Full Luxman electronics, 10 series

• Epsilon preamp and mono amplifiers

Each session was one week apart, and I listened for longer than two hours each time, playing whatever I wanted. Unfortunately, the source was digital except for the last session.

In my opinion, there’s no question that those Kharma speakers are the best I’ve ever heard—they’re simply too darn good. The downside is the price; they’re ridiculously expensive. Simply put, it’s oligarch audio.

 

[mtemur]

If you are going back to the Tokyo show this year, let's meet up

I don’t think I can visit Japan this year, it’s too far, but I hope we can meet in the future.

 

[iaxel]

No, a mono ZYX cartridge was installed on the Thales arm. The real star of the setup was the Kharma Veyron 2D speakers. I listened to those speakers with:

• Full CH electronics, including double M1.1 amplifiers

• Full Kondo electronics and cables, with Gakuoh II amplifiers

• Full Luxman electronics, 10 series

• Epsilon preamp and mono amplifiers

Each session was one week apart, and I listened for longer than two hours each time, playing whatever I wanted. Unfortunately, the source was digital except for the last session.

In my opinion, there’s no question that those Kharma speakers are the best I’ve ever heard—they’re simply too darn good. The downside is the price; they’re ridiculously expensive. Simply put, it’s oligarch audio.

OT, but, in your opinion, which amplification setup suited best the Kharmas?

 

[mtemur]

OT, but, in your opinion, which amplification setup suited best the Kharmas?

There can be many variables in play but if I limit my opinion for this specific room and situation I enjoyed them with Epsilon amplification most.

 

[iaxel]

There can be many variables in play but if I limit my opinion for this specific room and situation I enjoyed them with Epsilon amplification most.

I also liked the Ypsilon/Kharma combo.

 

[Erik-Alexander]

No, a mono ZYX cartridge was installed on the Thales arm. The real star of the setup was the Kharma Veyron 2D speakers. I listened to those speakers with:

• Full CH electronics, including double M1.1 amplifiers

• Full Kondo electronics and cables, with Gakuoh II amplifiers

• Full Luxman electronics, 10 series

• Epsilon preamp and mono amplifiers

Each session was one week apart, and I listened for longer than two hours each time, playing whatever I wanted. Unfortunately, the source was digital except for the last session.

In my opinion, there’s no question that those Kharma speakers are the best I’ve ever heard—they’re simply too darn good. The downside is the price; they’re ridiculously expensive. Simply put, it’s oligarch audio.

I use the same TechDas AF3 with the DIA cartridge but on the Graham Elite tonearm. With GoldNote PH1000 phonostage. The rest is TAD reference line equipment and speakers. Very happy with it.

 

[JackD201]

I shall be back to Munich and Tokyo this year. We can have a gathering and some good time together.

In my system, TechDAS Dia cartridge sounds better with 12" wand. I have both 10" and 12" wands. The armboard can be used to mount both lengths, just turn it over, it is a very clever design. TechDAS Dia is too sharp with 10" wand and 12" is just right. Vinyl playback requires matching of all parameters, it may sound better with 10" in your system.

Tokyo is a date!