I am bleeding but still alive. To answer your question, it has been very hard to get anyone to visit for a listen. Two deep pocket SET system owners have visited, and were quite pleased. They didn't believe the transport could make such a huge difference. They do now.
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I am bleeding but still alive. To answer your question, it has been very hard to get anyone to visit for a listen. Two deep pocket SET system owners have visited, and were quite pleased. They didn't believe the transport could make such a huge difference. They do now.
Sorry, Vince, I can't agree with you on that: there is no magic about the workings of electronic components as far as I'm concerned.
By the way, you haven't responded about how other audio enthusiasts liked your system ...
Frank
Sorry, crossed posts!
Frank
So they weren't jumping up and down with excitement. What do you feel didn't agree with them, in other words, what did or didn't the system do that they did not quite get on with?
Frank
Sorry, Vince, I can't agree with you on that: there is no magic about the workings of electronic components as far as I'm concerned.
By the way, you haven't responded about how other audio enthusiasts liked your system ...
Frank
What, you don't believe quantum mechanics had anything to do with the said components? Or, are you saying electrical engineers are just as good?
http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~ianb/history/
I rest my case. You don't have a single component in your system designed using quantum mechanics.
Quantum mechanics obviously is part of how everything in the universe works when you try to understand how things interact at a deeper level. Goes for transistors, cars, animals, the works. But in terms of understanding why one set of components produces good sound and another doesn't, I don't think you have to bring quantum mechanics to the table. IMO, it's all understandable using the same terminology you get in a decent electronics textbook.
Frank
Yes, that has helped in the process of inventing and developing these devices, but is not particularly relevant to why one version of a device works "better" than another version in producing realistic sound ...
Not having a go at you at all, Vince, just trying to keep the conversation where everyone feels comfortable (if that's possible
) ...Cheers,
Frank
Your transport was made by a company that bought a commercially available CD laser. Diodes were the first vacuum tubes ever made. Your amps were not designed by people who invented the transistor. All of your electronics were designed and made by companies who procure parts on the open market and use them in their designs using good old fashion electrical engineering.
Quantum mechanics describes all that is real.... as all things are made of atoms. That is beside the point. The fact is, our system electronics does involve atomic sized changes. Those components, as the 47 Lab transport accurately demonstrates, do the best in preserving the full intent of the musician... Of course, what comes by way of studio engineers.
Yes, the functioning of your system relies on quantum processes occurring in the components. But so does a cheap boombox. The 47 Lab transport does the job well because it has been simplified to the absolute minimum. Guess what? That just eliminated a whole lot of weaknesses, making the job of getting the rest of the system right that much easier ...
Frank
Yes, that has helped in the process of inventing and developing these devices, but is not particularly relevant to why one version of a device works "better" than another version in producing realistic sound ...
Not having a go at you at all, Vince, just trying to keep the conversation where everyone feels comfortable (if that's possible
Cheers,
Frank
The 47 lab transport was made using a ridiculously short circuit path, with the fewest parts possible. That translates to a magnificent sound. How does this have anything to do with quantum mechanics? Simply saying, the less intervention of the signal is the better. My SCs are designed with that in mind. Better, would be sending the SCs through the speaker to the crossover.
And that supports your pronouncements to a tee!! The fewer the connections the better. Metal interfaces are a problem. The signal has to leap from one carrier to another.
Yes, yes, yes!
Artistic licence not allowed here, eh?! If someone is swooning over a $200k valve amp, some of the dribble written down takes one's breath away ...
Frank
This is where the thread started to go haywire. Both I and others misunderstood what you were trying to say, Vince, so my apologies for that ...
Frank
Yes, yes, yes!
Artistic licence not allowed here, eh?! If someone is swooning over a $200k valve amp, some of the dribble written down takes one's breath away ...
Frank
Frank:
Since you're an expert on connectors, perhaps you can fill us in on their manufacturing as well as how and why different metals are used in their construction.
Now, Myles, if I wasn't such a nice chap, I might think you were having a go at me ...
It's very straightforward. If the connection is a true gas tight connection, best done with the heaviest duty crimping tool you can muster, then I haven't got a problem with things. If it is a miserable RCA socket, which is widely recognised as an appalling example of bad engineering, then I'll run away and hide.
The big trouble is not which metal, but that the same or different metals are barely touching each other, at the microscopic level, at connection points.
Result: almost instant onset of corrosion, then diodic effects, and thermoelectric effects all doing a great job of injecting low level nasties, so in comes IMD and, finally, rough sounding tweeters.
Solutions: hardwire everything, silver pastes, contact cleaners, enhancers, on and on it goes. Pick your poison ...
Guess what? The USA (I think?) lost a $Xmillion jet, because the wiring harnesses, which used the very highest quality gold plated connectors, STILL developed a corrosion after about 6 months, I think it was, to the point that the electronics played up, and the plane went down. This was determined by an enquiry after the accident ...
Frank
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