The big sound

[muralman1]

Not by the people that designed and built your gear.

1) Scientist invents laser using quantum mechanics knowledge.
2) 47 Lab designer uses quantum mechanics laser to pick up CD encoding.
3) No quantum mechanics laser = no CD player.
4) Quantum mechanics Laser + CD player = music

 

[Old Listener]

1) Scientist invents laser using quantum mechanics knowledge.
2) 47 Lab designer uses quantum mechanics laser to pick up CD encoding.
3) No quantum mechanics laser = no CD player.
4) Quantum mechanics Laser + CD player = music

There should be a no-bull prize here for somebody.

Bill

 

[fas42]

Vince, we have been asked politely to take our discussion to another area, so I have just started a new thread. Please continue over there ...

I apologise to all those who have been offended or otherwise disturbed by my contributions ...

Frank

 

[Gregadd]

You know how we like to post our order of precedence in what causes the most effect in the audio chain in the pursuit of excellence (ie with reasonable good gear).

For example:

room
speaker
signal source
amplification

Well, after Franks intial postings, it became evident to me that we all have expectations and ear/brain interfaces, so I added to my list, in order of precedence,

Listener expectations, for want of a better term as of now, thus:

Listener expectations
room
speaker
source
amplification

Frank and Vince can fully imerse themselves in their illusions, with two speakers, with plain old stereo, somehow. I call this listener expectation but maybe I need to work on that term to be more universally reveling of our ear/brain interface.

Stereo is a weak illusion by any standard, it is easily helped with all sorts of things, not the least of which is a center speaker to put some meat on the illusions bones.

Some of Franks comments do catch me by suprise, lastly , the one about if you are at a live event, up close, and as you leave it, although fletcher munson is in effect, it still does not sound less live. Interesting point. But, you know you are at a live event to start with. There is no illusion.

Tom

Listener expectation is free. If only I could delude myself into thinking I had a world class system. While I'm at it I could cure cancer with a placebo.

 

[Robh3606]

Listener expectation is free. If only I could delude myself into thinking I had a world class system.

Hello Gregadd

I don't have a" world class system" either. That doesn't prevent me from throughly enjoying what I have. Lusting for what you don't have is over ratted.

Rob

 

[Gregadd]

Hello Gregadd

I don't have a" world class system" either. That doesn't prevent me from throughly enjoying what I have. Lusting for what you don't have is over ratted.

Rob

true. i think you missed the point entirely. while listener expectation may have some role in the initial evaluation, it never lasts. an expectation is an anticipation of a future performance. it always evaporates when faced with reality.