Does the Tripoint increase or decrease the potential to ground between each of the Tripoint-connected components and ground?
Why doesn’t the Tripoint create a ground loop?
Why doesn’t the Tripoint create a ground loop?
Does the Tripoint increase or decrease the potential to ground between each of the Tripoint-connected components and ground?
Why doesn’t the Tripoint create a ground loop?
a] Dedicated EMI/RFI passive filtration component (what is the frequency response of the filter?)Does the Tripoint increase or decrease the potential to ground between each of the Tripoint-connected components and ground?
Why doesn’t the Tripoint create a ground loop?
Ron (and other WBF members), please keep in mind that Tripoint is doing (much) more than ‘only’ grounding. Understandably Miguel is keeping his technical secrets for himself because the competition as well as the ‘do it yourself guys’ are closely watching. That said it amazes me again and again that people form all kind of (strong) opinions about the (effectiveness of) Tripoint components while they at the same have no experience with them. Puzzling but I suppose it is what it is.
Respectfully, Audiocrack, please show me where you feel I have proffered any opinion about Tripoint’s effectiveness. As you stipulate Miguel chooses not to explain how it works.
I think I have posted only questions in an attempt to understand how it works. Contrary to your post the reason I am curious to understand how it works is because I assume it is effective.
Ron (and other WBF members), please keep in mind that Tripoint is doing (much) more than ‘only’ grounding. Understandably Miguel is keeping his technical secrets for himself because the competition as well as the ‘do it yourself guys’ are closely watching. That said it amazes me again and again that people form all kind of (strong) opinions about the (effectiveness of) Tripoint components while they at the same have no experience with them. Puzzling but I suppose it is what it is.
IMHO we must accept all strong opinions about this type of device (not only the Tripoint) without any astonishment. Their designers intentionally keep secret of all the basics and fundamental, not only the technical details, because they want to avoid any dangerous technical debate on them. There is a price to pay by this desire to keep people in the darkness - we all debate with the the same level of knowledge and the same inadequate arguments, but no one is above being debated.
The DIY people and competition spies are just an weak argument. Many designers know from experience that technical debates in free open forums are dangerous for marketing. Some times they enter it and are asked to retire by their distributors ...
I am currently using the Nordost QRT Qkore grounding system. I have listened to its effect in my system, but still do not have the faintest idea why it changes the sound like it does. But in reality it changes it!
a Tripoint Elite is a chassis ground focused product. it is connected to the power grid ground with a dummy plug (+ and - pins are dead ended.....only the ground prong is connected) into a duplex outlet with a permanently attached power cord.
Ron (and other WBF members), please keep in mind that Tripoint is doing (much) more than ‘only’ grounding. Understandably Miguel is keeping his technical secrets for himself because the competition as well as the ‘do it yourself guys’ are closely watching. That said it amazes me again and again that people form all kind of (strong) opinions about the (effectiveness of) Tripoint components while they at the same have no experience with them. Puzzling but I suppose it is what it is.
Or do you really think there is additional magic dust inside those boxes - beyond the single ground-wire to outlet ground - which does anything that can withstand electrical engineering scrutiny????
Are people aware that any component's power cord ground wire is itself connected to chassis? Have you considered the following: a) use the exact same power cords all around, including length; b) either star-ground to one power distributor which properly implements star-grounding internally (e.g. same-length ground wiring between all outlets); c) or if using multiple power distributors, tie their chassis grounds; d) if using multiple outlets, they all need to be using the exact same wire, including lengths.
Or do people really think there is additional magic dust inside those boxes - beyond the internal star-grounding and single ground-wire-to-outlet-ground - which does anything that can withstand electrical engineering scrutiny????
why do so many manufacturers add grounding terminals?
Dave
So many? Who? If there are grounding terminals, they are there for you to tie them together, in case your power cords or power lines are different, and/or you just don't star-ground any which way; and you should still tie them with same-length wires. The only grounding terminals I have actually seen are on the Shunyata power distributors, which is the right thing to offer, so you can tie different distributors together, as I said earlier. They have posted pictures of that as well, and it's probably in the manuals as well.
I cannot speak technically about what the Tripoint does. honestly I don't care about that.
but what I hear is more like an improved power supply, or adding a choke or 'better' choke' (or other such thing) than just related to proper ground. this is where so many are missing the message of what it's doing. these theories fall way short of the scope of things it affects and how it's doing it. it almost like you have to first assume that all the AC ground circuit for each piece of gear is already perfect. now what more can be done? now you are thinking in the right direction.
a bunch of wires and copper bars just touches the surface....however perfectly placed.......is not really what is going on.
Apparently, people have not experimented with proper grounding before resorting to this voodoo, hence all these claims of superiority. That's the message that's been missing.
Apparently, people have not experimented with proper grounding before resorting to this voodoo, hence all these claims of superiority. That's the message that's been missing.