Tweaks, Cables, and Filtration: Essential for World-Class Stereo Performance?

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(...) It's usually the "C" students who excel in business.

Sorry, it is a myth, unless you weight your statistics with their revenue.

In fact many successful business leaders have top grades - Pishai, Buffet, Sandberg, Bezos, Cook, Nooyi, Nadella - the list goes on ... And I an just addressing well known US business people.

 

[Ted Denney III]

Typically, people who place an outsized importance on education are themselves highly educated but often lack significant success. Whereas highly successful individuals realize that success is as much a mindset as it is a learned skill set. As such, they see through labels, and because they have achieved great personal success, they can identify success markers in others without resorting to common success labels.

Did not graduate high school:

• John D. Rockefeller (oil tycoon and philanthropist)
• Henry Ford (founder of Ford Motor Company)
• David Karp (founder of Tumblr)
• Richard Branson (founder of Virgin Group)
• Quentin Tarantino (filmmaker)
• Drew Barrymore (actress and entrepreneur)
• Jay-Z (rapper and businessman)
• Walt Disney (founder of Disney)
• Ray Kroc (founder of McDonald’s)

Graduated high school but not college:

• Steve Jobs (co-founder of Apple)
• Bill Gates (co-founder of Microsoft)
• Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook)
• Michael Dell (founder of Dell Computers)
• Larry Ellison (founder of Oracle)
• Steve Wozniak (co-founder of Apple)
• Ellen DeGeneres (comedian and talk show host)
• Ted Turner (founder of CNN)
• Anna Wintour (editor-in-chief of Vogue)
• Russell Simmons (co-founder of Def Jam Recordings)

These individuals achieved significant success in their respective fields despite not completing traditional educational paths.

 

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Typically, people who place an outsized importance on education are themselves highly educated but often lack significant success. Whereas highly successful individuals realize that success is as much a mindset as it is a learned skill set. As such, they see through labels, and because they have achieved great personal success, they can identify success markers in others without resorting to common success labels.

Did not graduate high school:

• John D. Rockefeller (oil tycoon and philanthropist)
• Henry Ford (founder of Ford Motor Company)
• David Karp (founder of Tumblr)
• Richard Branson (founder of Virgin Group)
• Quentin Tarantino (filmmaker)
• Drew Barrymore (actress and entrepreneur)
• Jay-Z (rapper and businessman)
• Walt Disney (founder of Disney)
• Ray Kroc (founder of McDonald’s)

Graduated high school but not college:

• Steve Jobs (co-founder of Apple)
• Bill Gates (co-founder of Microsoft)
• Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook)
• Michael Dell (founder of Dell Computers)
• Larry Ellison (founder of Oracle)
• Steve Wozniak (co-founder of Apple)
• Ellen DeGeneres (comedian and talk show host)
• Ted Turner (founder of CNN)
• Anna Wintour (editor-in-chief of Vogue)
• Russell Simmons (co-founder of Def Jam Recordings)

These individuals achieved significant success in their respective fields despite not completing traditional educational paths.

What is the point of these lists? Are a politician looking for a reason to reduce the funds going to formal education? Do you realize that part of the genius of these brilliant people in business is picking the best formally trained engineers and scientist to work with them?

 

[PYP]

don't forget the medical researchers, some of the most highly educated folks on the planet (and some of the smartest and hardest working), discovering medicines and processes that save millions of lives worldwide. Education is not a barrier to intuition and discovery. Check out the Nobel Prize winners in Medicine and Chemistry.

How about Theoretical Physicists? Einstein changed our understanding of the universe through thought experiments (and then lots of math).

 

[TonyW]

I recall an article I read 20+ years ago. It was a study that showed a correlation between high wage earners and SAT scores. The study showed that men who scored between 1150-1300 (give or take on the range) on the SAT were the most likely to earn more than $1 Million dollars/year. The study did not include degrees. Degrees open more doors, more choices but a person‘s drive and capabilities are what matter in the long run. We all get opportunities but how we grasp hold of those opportunities and leverage them into success- a success as we define it personally (not always about money) is the measure of a person. I personally value my contributions to those around me and even to those I will never meet more valuable than wealth. Don‘t take me as altruistic. I simply got more satisfaction coaching and helping the members of my team and others to succeed in my working days over getting recognition for myself. A serious character flaw in the corporate world. But of course when my team succeeded I benefited financially as well.

The thing is most of those people on the list we can admire from a distance but those closet to them found life somewhat less than pleasant.

 

[MarkusBarkus]

Check out the Nobel Prize winners in Medicine and Chemistry.

...I have met and dined with seven or eight of these folks over the past 15-20 years. 4-5 of them have been over to the house for drinks. They're not dumb. They are diligent and intensely focused on particular problems. For a long time.

In that regard, they can seem narrow in their perception, but in my view, it's also a somewhat narrow perception to characterize them as "limited" in some way because of that. The problems they work on are not analogous to which DC cable sounds best. No disrespect to folks here, of which I am one.

There are many kinds of intelligence.

 

[Robh3606]

Typically, people who place an outsized importance on education are themselves highly educated but often lack significant success. Whereas highly successful individuals realize that success is as much a mindset as it is a learned skill set. As such, they see through labels, and because they have achieved great personal success, they can identify success markers in others without resorting to common success labels.

Did not graduate high school:

• John D. Rockefeller (oil tycoon and philanthropist)
• Henry Ford (founder of Ford Motor Company)
• David Karp (founder of Tumblr)
• Richard Branson (founder of Virgin Group)
• Quentin Tarantino (filmmaker)
• Drew Barrymore (actress and entrepreneur)
• Jay-Z (rapper and businessman)
• Walt Disney (founder of Disney)
• Ray Kroc (founder of McDonald’s)

Graduated high school but not college:

• Steve Jobs (co-founder of Apple)
• Bill Gates (co-founder of Microsoft)
• Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook)
• Michael Dell (founder of Dell Computers)
• Larry Ellison (founder of Oracle)
• Steve Wozniak (co-founder of Apple)
• Ellen DeGeneres (comedian and talk show host)
• Ted Turner (founder of CNN)
• Anna Wintour (editor-in-chief of Vogue)
• Russell Simmons (co-founder of Def Jam Recordings)

These individuals achieved significant success in their respective fields despite not completing traditional educational paths.

How about you list everyone who didn't? I wonder which one is longer? There are always outliers.

I do understand your point though. You take a kid fresh out of college with an Electrical Engineering degree can't bias a transistor. Take a high school grad with 5 years on the bench runs rings around him. There is a lot more than schooling involved.

Rob

 

[PYP]

...and DIY surgery can sometimes yield "questionable" results.

sure, most of us can do a simple stitch up after an audiophile knife fight, but you still have to go to an MD for the antibiotic script.

 

[MarkusBarkus]

...I have a dandy scar from a little stitchery in my youth. I've always had a DIY mindset!

 

[Ted Denney III]

How about you list everyone who didn't? I wonder which one is longer? There are always outliers.

I do understand your point though. You take a kid fresh out of college with an Electrical Engineering degree can't bias a transistor. Take a high school grad with 5 years on the bench runs rings around him. There is a lot more than schooling involved.

Rob

I actually advised my son not to pursue a college education. I thought he would be far better off serving first in the Coast Guard, then learning a trade, working a sales job, becoming a subcontractor and ultimately a real estate developer.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

I actually advised my son not to pursue a college education. I thought he would be far better off serving first in the Coast Guard, then learning a trade, working a sales job, becoming a subcontractor and ultimately a real estate developer.

Question is what does your son want to do?

 

[Republicoftexas69]

How about you list everyone who didn't? I wonder which one is longer? There are always outliers.

I do understand your point though. You take a kid fresh out of college with an Electrical Engineering degree can't bias a transistor. Take a high school grad with 5 years on the bench runs rings around him. There is a lot more than schooling involved.

Rob

Well if the EE cannot then that is sad.
My daughter in law is an EE and is heading up the Test Division at Note Dame's Jet Propulsion Lab. Third year EE and was recently promoted. I think this falls on the student and the university also any internships.

 

[Robh3606]

I actually advised my son not to pursue a college education. I thought he would be far better off serving first in the Coast Guard, then learning a trade, working a sales job, becoming a subcontractor and ultimately a real estate developer.

I did the same thing. My son wanted to be a welder went to a college counselor, got talked out of it. Ended up in Maritime college and into the Navy. Worked out well. He still is looking to learn a trade.

Rob

 

[Republicoftexas69]

I did the same thing. My son wanted to be a welder went to a college counselor, got talked out of it. Ended up in Maritime college and into the Navy. Worked out well. He still is looking to learn a trade.

Rob

Massive shortage of Diesel Techs, CAT, CUMMING"s Certified. Can earn $150K a year.

 

[Robh3606]

Well if the EE cannot then that is sad.
My daughter in law is an EE and is heading up the Test Division at Note Dame's Jet Propulsion Lab. Third year EE and was recently promoted. I think this falls on the student and the university also any internships.

Good for her!

Well the people I am talking about had no internship. That's the key! She is working as she gets the degree gets a much better understanding and a way to apply in the real world. They come in for an interview asking stupid money with no experience and can't pass a basic test someone on the bench could pass with their eyes closed.

What the company would do was pay for college and you needed to stay for a couple of years after. Then you were free to go. Most stayed well past the required time.

 

[Kingrex]

Sorry, it is a myth, unless you weight your statistics with their revenue.

In fact many successful business leaders have top grades - Pishai, Buffet, Sandberg, Bezos, Cook, Nooyi, Nadella - the list goes on ... And I an just addressing well known US business people.

Most great leaders, lacking a degree, are still extremely high in IQ. Maybe low EQ. But IQ are off the charts.

 

[Kingrex]

Idiot was too strong a word. Not appropriate.
My naturopath is very smart and knows all about disease and how the different functions of the body protect us. Great guy.

The surgeons I.talked to about my herniated disc. They seem to know nothing beyond chop chop chop. They even disencouraged getting the injections I opted for. After my shots, I am far healthier and much more functional in 7 weeks than prople I know who opted for the knife.

My wife has some HPV issues. Med doc is all about chop chop chop. I got her to go to my naturopath. He put her on a program to strengthen her immune system. When she went back.to the med doc, her abnormal cells were gone. Yet the med doc.still recommended chop chop chop. I react to that type of doctoring negativity and call those people idiots.

 

[Kingrex]

I like what Mike and Marty say about tweeks.
I do feel a fuse and duplex are a fuctional basis component. But they can ve used incorrectly.

Filters are so hit and miss. I did some checking around on the SR filters. I found a detailed forum member review. All praise. I know the person who made said members amps. I called him and we talked about what the amp maker hear. Its was exactly as I stated earlier. The owner of the filter heard a sound. More bass. More focus. He liked it and praised it. The manufacturer of the gear said he heard more bass but it lacked detail now. Fuller, but less definiton and sustain. The focus was a narrowing of the image to a pin point. Lost was the expansive wide stage. But the owner liked the tight image placement.

Their is a subjective nature to tweeks.

 

[Jriley]

Natural? Open? To what definition?

Place that cable in three different systems, and you will get three distinct results. Can you guarantee that the same “natural sound” will be preserved across a SET+horn system, a Magico+Boulder setup, and a vintage system? No, you cannot predict with certainty how the system will sound with a specific cable. Why? Because the interaction between the speakers and the room plays the most decisive role in shaping the overall sound.

All audio systems are inherently dependent on their components and environment, making it impossible to guarantee a consistent “natural” sound from a single cable across different setups

And no one should expect listeners with their inherent anatomical variations to hear the same frequencies and nuances as they do!

 

[Republicoftexas69]

Good for her!

Well the people I am talking about had no internship. That's the key! She is working as she gets the degree gets a much better understanding and a way to apply in the real world. They come in for an interview asking stupid money with no experience and can't pass a basic test someone on the bench could pass with their eyes closed.

What the company would do was pay for college and you needed to stay for a couple of years after. Then you were free to go. Most stayed well past the required time.

Cheers.