Thanks for reposting that video as it reminded me of much of what I heard a few weeks ago. There’s some rather musical and a few not-so-musical things to say about it. But overall, it’s rather musical. At least on first listen. Presumably that’s an exhibiting room at a show? Almost looks like a room at the Venetian Hotel in Vegas? If so and given the windows to the left and short half-wall to the right, etc. I’m most impressed with the talent of whoever did the room setup especially if they only had a few days. But I’ll save that rabbit hole for another time. Especially since we're talking about me and my videos, I'd much prefer to also engage you and your videos - not you and somebody else's video used as a proxy.
morricab, let’s not beat around the bush here. In sports they say we're only as good as our last shift. Likewise, here we're presumably only as good as our last video posted, right? Here’s your latest video posted from above and here’s mine. After listening to yours and then mine again, I‘ve just one question. You can’t be serious, can you?
I happen to think all of our videos for better or worse are fairly representative of our playback config’s. as they tell us much about our systems as well as indicators of any due diligence we may put into our pursuits. Not to mention these in-room videos also tell us much about the one who compiled it including whether or not our listening skills and our words jive or are disjointed when compared to our posted videos.
Given your latest (or any previous that I’ve heard) video, I can’t really sense any evidence of any serious due diligence. Moreover, if I heard your sound at an audio show, I’m pretty sure I’d leave your room within 30 seconds because it would take no time to realize that room would have zero to offer me in the way of performance.
When I listen to even the very first note of my video of the sax and organ, I’m already suspecting my listening perspective may be somewhere, anywhere in a cathedral, even if it’s near the restrooms it’s still far better than hearing it in my room. IOW, I’m already well on my way toward a genuinely more believable and more musical presentation. If you’re unaware, that in itself would be quite an accomplishment. Even if there exists shortcomings elsewhere in the playback presentation.
Remind me again, why are so many so willing to spend so much on custom rooms and aftermarket room acoustic treatments? Primarily to make the room disappear, right? And since my system is able to make ambient info from the recording (the lowest of all low-level detail) so abundantly audible, it already overshadows perhaps every significant room acoustic anomaly so my perspective is no longer from the listening room. IOW, if there's any truth to my claim, then I've already accomplished what others must spend thousands on (their custom rooms and treatments) and I've not spent a dime - other than just having a minimally furnished room with carpeting. And those others ought to still fall short of the mark because even if they're able to make the room disappear, they still fall short because their systems are still unable to reproduce this abundance of ambient info.
From the sound of your videos I'm guessing this recording hall listening perspective may not be high on your radar and if not that’s just one more effect or cause why we hear things differently. But it seems rather obvious from your words and your videos this is not on your bucket list but it’s high on mine.
And yet, you no doubt think much the same of my videos. This is where providing an “official” type of youtube video makes for an excellent reference. Or at least it should unless our listening skills happen to be so inferior even that is of no benefit.
As evidenced by both videos, we’re coming from different galaxies and this is where some “official” video from the internet that by-passes our systems and rooms entirely makes for the best and only reasonable reference. Not some random youtube viewers, not your words nor my words, or even the words of some retired pipe organ maker since all of our listening skills are all over the map. It’s probably also worth mentioning the old rumor that if a mfg’er or distributor were looking for a quick positive feedback for their new product, they’d reach out to a musician or conductor because they always give positive feedback. Maybe it’s because of their love for music, any music?
I’m thankful that I hear almost no similarities because frankly, if I thought my videos sounded anything like yours and since I’m not a music lover at all costs kinda’ guy, I probably would have sought out another pursuit a long time ago that could bring more pleasure. But that’s me.
Sure, there’s enough in everybody’s videos to all day long pick on any number of system shortcomings via an in-room video. But hopefully some less than others. For example. When I listen to your videos, I hear a rather closed-in compact system that seems to not have much thought put into it and IMO, that’s pretty much how it sounds – to me. Though I’ve heard worse.
Oh, lest I forget…
1. You had no direct response to my entire bit regarding your faux pas about the whole room reverb vs live performance ambient info thing. Is it safe to assume that your lack of response implies you’re acknowledging your error?
2. I specifically asked why you’ve yet to comment even once on the many in-room videos that possess that rather nasty empty-coffee-can sonic signature and you didn’t acknowledge it. This leads me to think you’re unable to recognize that sonic signature or maybe you recognize it in your own videos, like it, prefer it, and therefore expect it? If so, is it any wonder you dislike my videos? But just remember you’ll never hear that sonic signature at a live performance. Nor with any of my videos.
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