What is the best speaker you have ever owned ?????

[Audioseduction]

'sigh on bass' ?

I ment shy.

 

[Brian Beck]

'sigh on bass' ?

I think it's like "moan on midrange" or a "whimper on highs"

 

[MadFloyd]

I think it's like "moan on midrange" or a "whimper on highs"

Not sure what you're trying to say here.

 

[Audioseduction]

Shy or lack of bass.

 

[MadFloyd]

Shy or lack of bass.

George, I get that you found them shy on bass (and also a bit edgy in the highs). I don't find this surprising.

My last post was asking Brian Beck what 'moan on midrange and whimper on highs' meant. I suspect that he's being humorous but it's lost on me.

 

[Brian Beck]

George, I get that you found them shy on bass (and also a bit edgy in the highs). I don't find this surprising.

My last post was asking Brian Beck what 'moan on midrange and whimper on highs' meant. I suspect that he's being humorous but it's lost on me.

Lost on me too.

A serious house tonight...

But seriously, I have really tried to understand the Magico magic at trade shows. I've heard most of the bigger models, including the the Q7, and rather extensively at that. I must say, regrettably, since I liked chatting with Alon, that I just don't get it. I accept the point that Myles Astor made in his review, that he had to wrest the S5s away from trade show conditions and into a tube and analog environment to fully appreciate them. But I suppose that can be said of many/any high-end speakers. I suspect there is only so much one can do with cones and higher-order crossovers in a box, even high-tech cones and a very hefty box. Ironically, the one thing I never heard with any Magicos is "magic". I have heard that magic many times with various panel speakers, even in show conditions. Just sayin'

 

[MadFloyd]

Lost on me too.

A serious house tonight...

But seriously, I have really tried to understand the Magico magic at trade shows. I've heard most of the bigger models, including the the Q7, and rather extensively at that. I must say, regrettably, since I liked chatting with Alon, that I just don't get it. I accept the point that Myles Astor made in his review, that he had to wrest the S5s away from trade show conditions and into a tube and analog environment to fully appreciate them. But I suppose that can be said of many/any high-end speakers. I suspect there is only so much one can do with cones and higher-order crossovers in a box, even high-tech cones and a very hefty box. Ironically, the one thing I never heard with any Magicos is "magic". I have heard that magic many times with various panel speakers, even in show conditions. Just sayin'

Thanks for elaborating.

 

[Garth]

Kool aid

I've heard speakers costing upwards $100k and still prefer my Martin Logan Summit Xs for sound quality. I would very much say these are giant killers.

As to giant killers I agree that some speakers costing more than CLXs or summits do not cut it. I was mainly trying to avoid another run in with the Magico Zealots you know how they can get with a snoot full of Kool aid

 

[MadFloyd]

Aren't Martin Logans panel speakers? People really prefer these over real speakers?

 

[Brian Beck]

I don't think enough is made of the time responses of high-end speakers. A speaker with a shredded time response will not necessarily sound bad or deficient, until it is compared with one that does time properly. That is where much of the magic comes from, IMO. Examples only below, as were available.

 

[MadFloyd]

I don't think enough is made of the time responses of high-end speakers. A speaker with a shredded time response will not necessarily sound bad or deficient, until it is compared with one that does time properly. That is where much of the magic comes from, IMO. Examples only below, as were available.

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Could you explain these charts, Brian?

 

[Garth]

...

 

[Brian Beck]

Could you explain these charts, Brian?

Yes, but later when I have more time. I typed a draft and then lost it.

 

[andromedaaudio]

This one by far

DSC_0126 by andromeda61, on Flickr

 

[f1eng]

Goldmund Epilog 1&2 and Tune Audio Anima horns, each in their own way, though I am gravitating towards listening the Animas more and more.

 

[f1eng]

Most hobbies have a lunatic fringe this one has a lunatic majority . Our true goal is to find the few sane people in the hobby and drive them crazy.

Splendid.
This is the most apposite thing I have seen written about audio forums since I discovered them 4 years ago when I retired!

 

[LL21]

Goldmund Epilog 1&2 and Tune Audio Anima horns, each in their own way, though I am gravitating towards listening the Animas more and more.

what was it about either Goldmund or Tune Audio that makes them so good? I have never heard either.

 

[rbbert]

This one by far

DSC_0126 by andromeda61, on Flickr

Is this your design?

 

[JackD201]

Most hobbies have a lunatic fringe this one has a lunatic majority . Our true goal is to find the few sane people in the hobby and drive them crazy.

ROFTL! This made my day!

 

[RogerD]

I don't think enough is made of the time responses of high-end speakers. A speaker with a shredded time response will not necessarily sound bad or deficient, until it is compared with one that does time properly. That is where much of the magic comes from, IMO. Examples only below, as were available.

So true.