I think you'll hear a lot of different opinions on that! I love the Kuzma and I love the way you can drop it in a wood case if you want something different, although I prefer the industrial aircraft carrier look. But I'm currently in the same boat as you were: I love my current Garrard 401/SME 3012R and I'm not sure I need the Kuzma setup, but I really do!To be honest, I was perfectly happy with my previous turntable, a TW Acustic Raven One/Graham Phantom II/Etsuro Urushi Cobalt. I desired only one other table: a Kuzma Stabi R with a 4Point 11 inch arm. However, I like to buy gently used equipment and I had never seen this combination for sale in the Canadian market. A friend of mine decided to sell his though, as he desired the ease of the Rega cartridge mounting system. I have the Etsuru mounted now; early indications are that the new setup is more dynamic, quieter, and bass notes (which were already well-defined) reveal detail to a greater degree. I prefer the look of my old setup but as you can see, my turntable is hidden in an equipment room adjacent to my listening room, so looks were not a consideration. The Kuzma table and arm are beautifully engineered but looks-wise, it's as though I've traded in a nimble sports car for a Hummer. Or thinking of it another way, the Kuzma is the audio equivalent of an aircraft carrier!
Yes Frank Kuzma does not really do "pretty " !To be honest, I was perfectly happy with my previous turntable, a TW Acustic Raven One/Graham Phantom II/Etsuro Urushi Cobalt. I desired only one other table: a Kuzma Stabi R with a 4Point 11 inch arm. However, I like to buy gently used equipment and I had never seen this combination for sale in the Canadian market. A friend of mine decided to sell his though, as he desired the ease of the Rega cartridge mounting system. I have the Etsuru mounted now; early indications are that the new setup is more dynamic, quieter, and bass notes (which were already well-defined) reveal detail to a greater degree. I prefer the look of my old setup but as you can see, my turntable is hidden in an equipment room adjacent to my listening room, so looks were not a consideration. The Kuzma table and arm are beautifully engineered but looks-wise, it's as though I've traded in a nimble sports car for a Hummer. Or thinking of it another way, the Kuzma is the audio equivalent of an aircraft carrier!
Like all of the Kuzma TT's and tonearms, the Stabi R and 4Point 11" is an awesome TT set-up (especially for the money) that will last you a lifetime.To be honest, I was perfectly happy with my previous turntable, a TW Acustic Raven One/Graham Phantom II/Etsuro Urushi Cobalt. I desired only one other table: a Kuzma Stabi R with a 4Point 11 inch arm. However, I like to buy gently used equipment and I had never seen this combination for sale in the Canadian market. A friend of mine decided to sell his though, as he desired the ease of the Rega cartridge mounting system. I have the Etsuru mounted now; early indications are that the new setup is more dynamic, quieter, and bass notes (which were already well-defined) reveal detail to a greater degree. I prefer the look of my old setup but as you can see, my turntable is hidden in an equipment room adjacent to my listening room, so looks were not a consideration. The Kuzma table and arm are beautifully engineered but looks-wise, it's as though I've traded in a nimble sports car for a Hummer. Or thinking of it another way, the Kuzma is the audio equivalent of an aircraft carrier!
He’s purchasing a Naia, but apparently they aren’t available until September in Canada.Like all of the Kuzma TT's and tonearms, the Stabi R and 4Point 11" is an awesome TT set-up (especially for the money) that will last you a lifetime.
If your friend has gone from a Kuzma Stabi R and 4Point to a Rega TT and arm (assuming he went for a Rega R8 or P10), I can only assume he will be bitterly disappointed with a drop in sonic performance (assuming his Kuzma TT, Tonearm and his chosen cartridge was set-up properly in the first place), (I have had a Rega RP10 with a Rega Apheta 2 and a Rega P10 with a Rega Apheta 3, both set up by Rega Reference Dealers).
I have read reviews that even the Kuzma Stabi S TT with a Kuzma Stogi arm, performance wise, trounces on TT's and tonearms double and even triple it's price !
I think the Kuzma XL DC is a very handsome TT in it's standard brass lacquered finish and also being able to choose one painted with most RAL colours currently on the market today ! I love mine !Yes Frank Kuzma does not really do "pretty " !
Oooouch..... For the price of the Naiad (circa £30k) he could have bought some very very nice new or for more value for money a one careful owner second hand TT set-up !He’s purchasing a Naia, but apparently they aren’t available until September in Canada.
When I spoke to one of the Rega Reference Dealers (who has many many years experience and knowledge in hifi) that I bought my new Rega P10 from a couple of years back (who also is a Dealer for other TT manufacturers that make high end TT's and also sells very high end used hifi components), I asked him what TT would he buy if money was no object and he could choose any one. His reply was a Grand Prix Monaco V2 (V3 wasn't born then) fitted with a Kuzma 4Point arm and after that TT his second choice would be a Kuzma XL DC with a 4Point arm.Oooouch..... For the price of the Naiad (circa £30k) he could have bought some very very nice new or for more value for money a one careful owner second hand TT set-up !
It’s the Naia, which is a new model. Much cheaper but also not inexpensive.Oooouch..... For the price of the Naiad (circa £30k) he could have bought some very very nice new or for more value for money a one careful owner second hand TT set-up !
Aah sorry 'Tangram', thought you had made a typo with 'Naia'.It’s the Naia, which is a new model. Much cheaper but also not inexpensive.
I highly respect the Kuzma XL DC, the way they went from the fashionable (in Germany) 3 motor setup to a one good motor setup is recommendable. The air bearing upgrade made with a industrial porous media normale used in very taxing machinery is impressive too ! Yes handsome i maybe a good way to describe the brutish devil !I think the Kuzma XL DC is a very handsome TT in it's standard brass lacquered finish and also being able to choose one painted with most RAL colours currently on the market today ! I love mine !
Being a Chartered Mechanical Engineer, I love the XL DC's design, engineering solidity, engineering simplicity (very little that can go wrong with it) , engineering and build quality, it's mass, low maintenance requirements, precise vertical tonearm tower adjustment, flexibility of having multiple tonearms and a reasonably small foot print. Then you have the wonderful looks (with not many other TT's that look the same).I highly respect the Kuzma XL DC, the way they went from the fashionable (in Germany) 3 motor setup to a one good motor setup is recommendable. The air bearing upgrade made with a industrial porous media normale used in very taxing machinery is impressive too ! Yes handsome i maybe a good way to describe the brutish devil !
That’s a superb table!! If that’s not high end I don’t know what high end is.I have a Rega P10 with Apheta 3. I’m quite happy with it. There seems to be some Rega hate in this thread and I’m not experienced enough with anything higher end than the P10 to know better, but I love my P10 for the fact that I don’t have to futz about with alignment, I love the looks and the fact that it matches my aesthetic, and I have zero issues with it. (ps I don’t actually use the turntable weight with it, it was for my previous turntable and I thought it just looked nice for the photo)View attachment 112873
I have been close to buying one so many times, especially when my "fancier" table needs service. I heard one at a friend's house and it sounded lovely!I have a Rega P10 with Apheta 3. I’m quite happy with it. There seems to be some Rega hate in this thread and I’m not experienced enough with anything higher end than the P10 to know better, but I love my P10 for the fact that I don’t have to futz about with alignment, I love the looks and the fact that it matches my aesthetic, and I have zero issues with it. (ps I don’t actually use the turntable weight with it, it was for my previous turntable and I thought it just looked nice for the photo)View attachment 112873
I would chose a Kuzma Stabi S with a Kuzma tonearm any day of the week over a Rega P10 (having owned both a Rega RP10 and a P10 and heard and played with the Kuzma Stabi S with a Kuzma 9" Stogi S tonearm).I have been close to buying one so many times, especially when my "fancier" table needs service. I heard one at a friend's house and it sounded lovely!
Sure, it's a great table but it's much less of a set and forget table if you are using a Rega cartridge on the P10 and don't need two arms.I would chose a Kuzma Stabi S with a Kuzma tonearm any day of the week over a Rega P10 (having owned both a Rega RP10 and a P10 and heard and played with the Kuzma Stabi S with a Kuzma 9" Stogi S tonearm).
The Stabi S is also a highly versatile TT which can be mounted with two tonearms and capable of using all of the Kuzma tonearms (except I think the 4Point 14" - unless the extended 12" Stabi S can accommodate it ???)
However I confess that I am heavily biased towards Kuzma with now owning the XL DC (which is on another planet - at a much higher cost of course although worth every hard earned penny / cent / dime!) and the 4Point 11" tonearm. Kuzma's after sale support is also far far superior to Rega and that is from personal experience !
The Rega P10 is definitely just a 'plug and play and forget' TT for people who don't want to fettle with a TT set-up to get the best out of it.Sure, it's a great table but it's much less of a set and forget table if you are using a Rega cartridge on the P10 and don't need two arms.