What turntables do you use? Pictures would be nice as well :-)

I would go for this one. It is the right choice. Additionally you can clean the residue of polishing by wiping with IPA and a cloth. That should improve the sound.
I found what was causing the brightness.
I've completely removed the inner and outer lip and now it sounds less bright.

I think I warped/damaged the lips because after the polish, they seemed uneven, and with the suction hold, all the records spinning look warped.

Even with the suction hold off there was still brightness, not until I had completely removed them.
 
I found what was causing the brightness.
I've completely removed the inner and outer lip and now it sounds less bright.

I think I warped/damaged the lips because after the polish, they seemed uneven, and with the suction hold, all the records spinning look warped.

Even with the suction hold off there was still brightness, not until I had completely removed them.
IMHO it seems pretty hard to damage rubber lips by polishing. However clogging the tight vacuum lines with polishing compound seems more possible.
 
IMHO it seems pretty hard to damage rubber lips by polishing. However clogging the tight vacuum lines with polishing compound seems more possible.
checked and cleaned before removing the inner and outer lips.
air lines were clean with no clogging.

i'll order a new set.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mtemur
I found what was causing the brightness.
I've completely removed the inner and outer lip and now it sounds less bright.

I think I warped/damaged the lips because after the polish, they seemed uneven, and with the suction hold, all the records spinning look warped.

Even with the suction hold off there was still brightness, not until I had completely removed them.

So sorry to read of your trials and tribulations Juiced … For my part I would still consider going through the hassle involved in re lacquering your platter , If anything for your peace of mind .

That said , look on the bright side , you may have just invented Lacquer Rolling :)
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: mxk116 and Juiced
from what I know from playing around with different coating stuff to dampen vibrations (or let them happen) I honestly doubt any serious lacquer will do much to dampen a platter, Even the much fabled Stradivarius lacquer does not really dampen wood vibrations in a violin (unless it penetrates the wood too deep).

Most lacquers are too hard to seriously dampen vibration. If corrosion protection is needed you have a wide range of options for a protective lacquer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: mtemur and Juiced
So sorry to read of your trials and tribulations Juiced … For my part I would still consider going through the hassle involved in re lacquering your platter , If anything for your peace of mind .

That said , look on the bright side , you may have just invented Lacquer Rolling :)
LOL
Thank you.

I have been listening for a few days now and can confirm that after removing the sealing lips the piercing brightness was gone!
And only clarity remained.

I don't know why.
All I know is that the turntable sounds better now without hold-down suction and with part of the top and sides polished.
The insides of the platter and the inner part remained not polished.

The outer lip was not 100% leveled,
a part of the lip was a bit lower.
Trying to fix it, I tore a piece of the lip and eventually removed it.

I will place an order to @Florian E. for a mat and replacement lips once they are in stock.

WhatsApp Image 2025-04-18 at 14.13.09.jpeg
 
Hi Juice, one quick question, you said “the outer lip is not 100% level”, so when you engage the vacuum switch, are you sure the seal is complete and the LP is being pulled down flat on the platter?

I ask because if the lip is indeed damaged, then the seal may not be complete. In such case, then LP may be lifted up from the platter by the lip. That may be the cause of the brightness!
 
Hi Juice, one quick question, you said “the outer lip is not 100% level”, so when you engage the vacuum switch, are you sure the seal is complete and the LP is being pulled down flat on the platter?

I ask because if the lip is indeed damaged, then the seal may not be complete. In such case, then LP may be lifted up from the platter by the lip. That may be the cause of the brightness!
Yes,
Exactly.

I think i have damaged it in the polish process.
 
Today I found some time to set up

Kodo The Beat turntable
Acoustical Systems Aquilar tonearm
Luxman LMC5 cart

Performing great, like it





IMG_6859.jpegIMG_6857.jpegIMG_6856.jpeg
 
Quite a table for sure. Assuming you are going to do a formal review, I notice 'another' new VPI tonearm - the gimbal carbon tube with aluminum head shell, looking forward your thoughts on that also. A couple of years ago at CAF 2023, VPI was showing a one-piece tonearm-head shell machined from Delrin. It looked like a 3D, but up close you see the difference. It mostly flew under the radar, and no one reported about it. I spoke to Harry about it, and he said it took quite a few hours to machine. VPI loves to play around with prototype tonearms.
Thanks! The new VPI Vanquish table sounds really good. If it’s possible, the new table has an even lower noise floor (enhanced by the Soulution electronics) and bass (the plinth is heavier and metacrylate sandwiched between stainless steel instead of the reverse with the earlier table.

The latest iteration of the direct-drive motor is derived from the HW 40 while my previous Avenger DD used the motor from my original Classic Direct. That’s motors has gotta be 8 or 10 years old. Says a lot, though, about reliability. On top of it, the Vanquish has an outboard power supply so there’s no issues with motor/cartridge interactions like hum.

The new VPI CF arm is a real product, just in this era of post-pandemic manufacturing it always takes longer than expected for products to be manufactured. Harry and Mat were also,toying around with a few changes to the design before settling on the final product. But it’s a real step up from the Fat Boy arm. It worked really well with the Analog Relax cartridge.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Neil.Antin
The new VPI CF arm is a real product, just in this era of post-pandemic manufacturing it always takes longer than expected for products to be manufactured. Harry and Mat were also,toying around with a few changes to the design before settling on the final product. But it’s a real step up from the Fat Boy arm.
That is saying quite a bit given your very favorable review of the Fatboy some years back which helped convince me to buy a Fatboy for my modified TNT and which I feel your review was spot-on. I look forward to your more in-depth review of this new CF-arm.
 

About us

  • What’s Best Forum is THE forum for high end audio, product reviews, advice and sharing experiences on the best of everything else. This is THE place where audiophiles and audio companies discuss vintage, contemporary and new audio products, music servers, music streamers, computer audio, digital-to-analog converters, turntables, phono stages, cartridges, reel-to-reel tape machines, speakers, headphones and tube and solid-state amplification. Founded in 2010 What’s Best Forum invites intelligent and courteous people of all interests and backgrounds to describe and discuss the best of everything. From beginners to life-long hobbyists to industry professionals, we enjoy learning about new things and meeting new people, and participating in spirited debates.

Quick Navigation

User Menu

Steve Williams
Site Founder | Site Owner | Administrator
Ron Resnick
Site Owner | Administrator
Julian (The Fixer)
Website Build | Marketing Managersing