Who are the most talented individuals working in the high end audio industry today?
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You're joking, right? You must be cuz I'm laughing at your statement.
I owned Bob Carver's "top of the line" pre-amp and amp (350 wpc at 900 wpc peaks - yeah right) for years thinking perhaps like you that they were the cat's meow. Only to discover in a direct comparison to an 80 wpc Onkyo receiver was significantly more musical, especially in the power category.
Carver may be a marketing genius but that's about it. Although I did get pleasure from his sonic holography technology.
Remember the old story about Carver making an amplifier out of a coffee can that sounded as good as a highly rated Conrad Johnson amp? Everybody thought he was a genius because of that little experiment.
Yet to this day, nobody including Carver understands what he really proved then. That Carver proved that a highly rated CJ amp sounded no better than an amp make from a coffee can.
Again, when I think of names worthy of mentioning in this industry, I only think from a performance perspective, not the bling bling or fancy remote, etc perspective. And in that category, you cannot think of a single name that has greatly impacted the industry from a sheer performance perspective.
OK, your list is YOUR list, what you think is worthy is YOUR opinion. I deal in the world of common sense and facts. Look how many Carver products made these lists of the 10 most significant amps of all time along with WHY they are on the lists. Then look at the company he is in. Bob has amps from Phase linear, Carver, and Sunfire all on these lists.:
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/the-ten-most-significant-amplifiers-of-all-time/
And Bob Carver is getting the Founder's Award at the LAOC Audio Society gala dinner.
No I've not given you my list yet. Not that it matters cuz nobody's heard of him but he's focused on performance only without any flair or bling.
Not because it's easier to make a blanket criticism grossly abasing all those previously mentioned without contributing anything yourself?
Abased or debased? I suppose it doesn't matter which.
I don't think the "grossly abasing" part can be attributed to me. Perhaps it can be attributed to you or others who've incorrectly given credence to those who've actually contributed little or nothing to real performance gains? You haven't witnessed me do that.
For example. If I think you're a super athlete and say so. Then I have a conversation with your significant other and they clearly convince me you haven't an athletic bone in your body, was I in the wrong or your significant other?
For example. If I think you're a super athlete and say so. Then I have a conversation with your significant other and they clearly convince me you haven't an athletic bone in your body, was I in the wrong or your significant other?
Beam me up Scotty...
Beam me up Scotty...
So who is the guy on your list that's better than all the people you have slammed? You mention that no one has ever heard of him, what's the matter, can't he sell one of his "amazing" products? Or does he not like getting paid?
My SO wouldn't even give you a second of attention... and if she did, she'd laugh out loudly to your face.
YashN, you almost sound militant with your insults. They say if you throw a rock into a pack of wolves, the one that barks the loudest is usually the one that got hit.
Lamely criticize? I'd be interested to know why you injected "lame". Especially when I thought I was being kind.
Is that because you can't think of any serious performance-oriented names or is it because my hypothetical about your SO telling me you don't have an athletic bone in your body hit a little too close to home? If it's because of the former, cheer up, you're obviously not alone. If it's the latter, well, that's completely outside my scope. How was I to know? Or is it because you've little clue what real performance means?
But I'll give you a name (not the name I was originally thinking) of one who has contributed significantly to a given playback system's performance. Ed Wilco (sp) owner of the now defunct Foundation Research co. in Ontario, Canada. If you are one of the few who appreciates the universally noisy AC coming in from the street and what superior line conditioners can do for a given system's performance once the noisy AC has been sufficiently cleansed, purified, filtered, and/or conditioned, I've little doubt you would disagree. But since it seems you do not use line conditioners, much less superior line conditioners this aspect is most likely foreign to you as you probably consider line conditioners as "accessories" as much of the industry does. Or do you think because you have "dedicated" lines you have no need for superior line conditioners?
There just may be another superior line conditioning mfg'er or two but Ed's pretty much the top of my list. To the best of my knowledge, every reviewer who reviewed the Foundation Research line conditioners over the past 16 years ended up buying the review samples.
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