Why, oh why, does vinyl continue to blow away digital?

Interested in the cultural significance of vinyl and how this might colour biases to preferring vinyl.
So, all those who grew up with vinyl, have no idea how many have switched allegiances. It's obviously a reasonably large number, but nowhere near a majority.
But those who've grown up with digital, how many have switched to vinyl?
 
Interested in the cultural significance of vinyl and how this might colour biases to preferring vinyl.
So, all those who grew up with vinyl, have no idea how many have switched allegiances. It's obviously a reasonably large number, but nowhere near a majority.
But those who've grown up with digital, how many have switched to vinyl?

This might have a lot to do with one’s collection of media. It’s pretty expensive and difficult to grow up with Digital and then switch to vinyl. Digital people enjoy vinyl in other people’s systems.
 
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Interested in the cultural significance of vinyl and how this might colour biases to preferring vinyl.
So, all those who grew up with vinyl, have no idea how many have switched allegiances. It's obviously a reasonably large number, but nowhere near a majority.

It may not be a majority among audiophiles, but it was obviously the vast majority of the general public who switched.

I personally, like so many others, loved the large album covers of vinyl when I grew up, which also had a cultural significance for me and my class mates at school. I was not exactly pleased with the compact format of the compact disc, which literally seemed to diminish that significance.

Yet I hated the clicks and pops on vinyl and I developed OCD trying to get rid of them. The advent of the CD was an incredible relief for me just on that point. Later, as I became more of an audiophile, I had to confront the shortcomings of CD playback at the time, which now have been resolved more than satisfactorily to my ears.

But those who've grown up with digital, how many have switched to vinyl?

Among audiophiles, maybe a significant percentage, don't know. A few among non-audiophiles, but those have switched to mostly digital vinyl, which is not the analog experience of yesteryore.

I do love the analog experience with also modern excellent AAA releases like, for example, TOS by Deutsche Grammophon or the Tone Poet series by Blue Note. Yet those are obviously not mainstream, not like the digital Taylor Swift or Adele LPs.

Yet like in the old days, the large album covers and the tactile experience of vinyl seem to guide a good amount of the attraction of even digital vinyl. And of course, now the colored vinyl as well. In the old days colored vinyl was rare, but I still fondly remember the green vinyl of Peter Green's "in the Skies" when it came out in 1979.
 
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To rDin.

I am glad that my posts make you "sad". I'll continue my efforts in that vein.

Suffice to say, I find your apparent inability to understand and respect views counter to your opinions, and your apparent need to be passive - aggressive regarding that inability, to be well beyond sad.

Best. TDA.
 
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To rDin. I am glad that my posts make you "sad". I'll continue my efforts in that vein. Best. TDA.

I am targeted with "sad" emojis by rDin too.

Sad. But hey, whatever.
 
Suffice to say, I find your apparent inability to understand and respect views counter to your opinions, and your apparent need to be passive - agressive regarding that inability, to be well beyond sad.

Well said, and agreed.
 
There is tribal warfare / behavior so common and prevalent in today’s world, but this discussion on WBF is not that. There’s a lot of hyperbole around today also.
I totally understand / accept your opinion but I respectfully disagree. Best.
 
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I had a bad vinyl experience. I had Erik with Solypsa over. We were listening to records. I put on my Analog Productions 45 rpm Tea For The Tillerman. It was horrible. So so bad. I then put the same album on Qobuz and it was so better. We both agreed the digital was much better. The album cover says Guaranteed. I want my money back.

I'm all digital now. I took apart my record player and boxed it up. I'm searching around for good streaming. Really enjoying a nice classical piano piece as I type now. I'm actually really satisfied with what I'm hearing.
 
I had a bad vinyl experience. I had Erik with Solypsa over. We were listening to records. I put on my Analog Productions 45 rpm Tea For The Tillerman. It was horrible. So so bad. I then put the same album on Qobuz and it was so better. We both agreed the digital was much better. The album cover says Guaranteed. I want my money back.

I'm all digital now. I took apart my record player and boxed it up. I'm searching around for good streaming. Really enjoying a nice classical piano piece as I type now. I'm actually really satisfied with what I'm hearing.

Are you serious? I hope you're joking.

I don't think one bad experience should make or break things. Sure, there is a good amount of crappy vinyl, but there are also tons of wonderful sounding, musically immersive vinyl records.

Of course, I understand real satisfaction with digital too ;).
 
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Having listened to Tea for the Tillerman on a garden variety release vinyl album and on Qobuz, to my ears the vinyl is so superior. Have not listened to any fancy shmancy 45 rpm special issue. There’s no need. Go to your nearest flea market and pick up the standard release if you find it. On a good turntable/cartridge/phono stage, vinyl reproduction of Tea for the Tillerman blows away any compressed streaming version.

One of my go-to albums for evaluating streaming is the Jethro Tull Songs from the Wood album. Listening to it on my turntable (again, garden variety release) with the so-called remastered version on Qobuz, I’m struck by how much information is lost in digitization. On the opening track, Ian Anderson’s voice has this halo of ambience from the studio where it was recorded. In the streaming version, it’s a two-dimensional cartoon of sound.

Has there ever been a better album cover celebrating the joy of vinyl than this album from 50 years ago that I listened to in my dorm room on 8-track tape? Brings back memories!

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I'm 100% serious.
But. Erik was here to help me break the table down to move. Its going to my new house. I threw out a little clickbait for fun.

As far as the version album I have, no joking, it sucks. One of the worst albums I have. Lifeless. No dynamics or energy. Do not buy this album. I would actually feel uncomfortable selling it on Discogs. I'm truely embarrassed for the company that released it.

Funny story. Tim Leinbaugh made a double speed cassette deck for me to try. He sent a tape of albums to listen to. One was Tea For The Tillerman. I was amazed his cassette was so much better than what I thought was a great 45 rpm version. It all made sense when I realizes what garbage the version I have it. I really want to ask for my money back. It says Guaranteed. How someone produced this and put it on heavy vinyl is behind me.
 

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Having listened to Tea for the Tillerman on a garden variety release vinyl album and on Qobuz, to my ears the vinyl is so superior. Have not listened to any fancy shmancy 45 rpm special issue. There’s no need. Go to your nearest flea market and pick up the standard release if you find it. On a good turntable/cartridge/phono stage, vinyl reproduction of Tea for the Tillerman blows away any compressed streaming version.

If it's compressed that's not the fault of the digital medium. It's the fault of the engineer who made it compressed and the record company who made him to.
 
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How someone produced this and put it on heavy vinyl is behind me.

Or maybe the adjustment of your tone arm is outside of what would allow for a good sound with thick vinyl.
 
If it's compressed that's not the fault of the digital medium. It's the fault of the engineer who made it compressed and the record company who made him to.
This is the simple fact that many here refuse to grasp. Whatever the playback medium, it’s the recording/mastering that is most relevant. The whole “digital/analog” debate is a relatively meaningless distraction.
 
This is the simple fact that many here refuse to grasp. Whatever the playback medium, it’s the recording/mastering that is most relevant. The whole “digital/analog” debate is a relatively meaningless distraction.

These statements are 100% correct and easy to prove to yourself, and to others.
 
I.had some 33 pressing but got rid of it. This album is a perfect example of an album that gets played and its hard to find a used one in good condition. Digitql is very good. I don't see a reason to spend $22 plus on 2 or 3 more to find one that plays well. Plus, I have a 15ips tape thats pretty outstanding.
This record drives home the point that your limiting your access to a massive catalog of great music if you listen to vinyl. Digital is way better than vinyl on a much larger and broader catalog of music. Vinyl is better on a selection that is smaller and many times worn out.
 
I'm 100% serious.
But. Erik was here to help me break the table down to move. Its going to my new house. I threw out a little clickbait for fun.

As far as the version album I have, no joking, it sucks. One of the worst albums I have. Lifeless. No dynamics or energy. Do not buy this album. I would actually feel uncomfortable selling it on Discogs. I'm truely embarrassed for the company that released it.

Funny story. Tim Leinbaugh made a double speed cassette deck for me to try. He sent a tape of albums to listen to. One was Tea For The Tillerman. I was amazed his cassette was so much better than what I thought was a great 45 rpm version. It all made sense when I realizes what garbage the version I have it. I really want to ask for my money back. It says Guaranteed. How someone produced this and put it on heavy vinyl is behind me.
AP reissue of Tea For The Tillerman is extremely good. Your unfortunate experience with it most probably due to your vinyl playback setup. A poor alignment or wrong matching choices can make a vinyl setup sound extremely bad. At least that’s what I observed over the years.
 
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I had a bad vinyl experience. I had Erik with Solypsa over. We were listening to records. I put on my Analog Productions 45 rpm Tea For The Tillerman. It was horrible. So so bad. I then put the same album on Qobuz and it was so better. We both agreed the digital was much better. The album cover says Guaranteed. I want my money back.

I'm all digital now. I took apart my record player and boxed it up. I'm searching around for good streaming. Really enjoying a nice classical piano piece as I type now. I'm actually really satisfied with what I'm hearing.

Good choice , analog is not for you, Question , when that one bad Digital experience hits and it will , whats next ..?

:)
 
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