They have probably already moved their money. Insider trading rules don't even apply to them. They sit on committees whose rulings will impact the corporations they own stock in. During the presidential conventions of both parties, all ethics rules are suspended as if they didn't already contain loop holes big enough to drive a Mack truck through that was carrying other Mack trucks.
Will the US default on Octover 17?
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They have probably already moved their money. Insider trading rules don't even apply to them. They sit on committees whose rulings will impact the corporations they own stock in. During the presidential conventions of both parties, all ethics rules are suspended as if they didn't already contain loop holes big enough to drive a Mack truck through that was carrying other Mack trucks.
No, they shouldn't. There are approximately 80 Congresscritters and one nadless Speaker who bear full responsibility for this fiasco. Prosecuting everybody would just guarantee that no one with half a brain would serve for a generation.
Tim
Sorry, your partisan flag is flying. The democrats and the President are equally culpable for the atmosphere of doing nothing in Congress. Perhaps the democrats should of considered republican input into the health bill rather than ram rodding it through when they had control of both houses. Speaking for Obama, he has been the most aloof President in recent history with POOR leadership skills both domestically and abroad. The mistake will have run it's course by the beginning of 2017 when he leaves office.
And then the Republicans will put up Ted Cruze to run for president and make a laughingstock out of their party again.
So who will the Republicans put in the next election? Sara Palin? Michelle Bachman? Who do they have that is actually electable? You would have thought after Obama's first four years they would have beat him easily. Instead, they put up a rich Mormon who is out of touch with the general population and they get trounced.
Sorry, your partisan flag is flying. The democrats and the President are not equally culpable for this do nothing congress. When you have a republican led congress whose sole self stated job in Obama's first term was to prevent his reelection at all costs and refused to negotiate on practically anything he put forward, how would you expect the President to act? The health bill was practically castrated in concessions in the first place in order to get some semblance of the health bill through. The republican led congress has stonewalled our President in everything he has tried to do, even when the ideas were originally republican! Where did the saying, the party of "NO" came from? If the republicans were actually willing to sit down and work through the issues, then maybe we could get somewhere. The sad part is the gutlessness of the leader of the house and his fellow members to allow the tea party to control them.
There is no shortage of blame to go around on both parties. I wish in the next election that when you go to the polling booth that instead of voting for a Republican ticket or a Democratic ticket they just had two levers to pull. One would say 'incumbents' and the other would say 'non-incumbents.' We should all pull the 'non-incumbents' lever and throw every single last one of them out of office.
The Speaker of the house; is he up to no good?
Tim, Congresscritters and nadless; ?
Plenty of blame to go around, yes, but not for this. Pushing controversial laws through when you have the votes, this strikes you as unusual? I have plenty of issues with Obama, but this is 80 Congressmen holding the payment of bills incurred by Congress, over the funding of a law. Not a bill, a law. Passed by both houses, signed and declared constitutional. That, my friend, is unusual, unprecedented, divisive and irresponsible. Passing controversial legislation when you have to votes instead of waiting until after the midterms? Business as usual, on both sides of the aisle. And I think we both know that.
Tim
Gonads, Bob. The Speaker is up to no guts. He is not a radical like the 80 Congressmen who are driving this truck toward the cliff, he is a moderate, a conservative but a reasonable man. He knows that if he would put a clean (no riders trying to de-fund or delay the healthcare law) continuing resolution to fund the government to a vote, it would pass. But he also knows that the radical wing of his party would turn on him in the next election cycle, and there's a good chance they could defeat him in the primary and put him out of a job. Bohner knows what needs to be done. But like many moderates in the Republican party right now, he is intimidated by the right-wing radicals. I find all of this very sad. I didn't like it when the far left had too much influence over the Democrats in the 70s any more than I like this, but the Democrats survived it. Maybe the GOP will as well, but theirs a strong voice in American politics, a perspective we need, and they are playing a very dangerous game, because the more they pander to the radicals in their party, the further they stray away from the will of the people.
Personally, I think we're way past time for a third and fourth party. Democrats at center left, Republicans at center right, the far left and far right on their own, pushing agendas and ideologies while the grown-ups govern.
Tim
Yeah sorry, I got it now.
Kind of sad that men are no men anymore. What about women; would they run this country in a more effective way? ...They ain't need no 'gonads' anyway.
Kind of sad that men are no men anymore. What about women; would they run this country in a more effective way? ...They ain't need no 'gonads' anyway.
The left ceded the moral high ground on that issue when the Executive branch bypassed Congress and started handing out exemptions to favored consituents like Pez, including the entire state of Massachusetts and curiously, in disproportionate number to Nancy Pelosi's home district. Likewise, nowhere was the Executive branch empowered to delay the implementation of the law's provisions without Congressional approval until after the mid-term elections a la the employer mandate.
There is no moral high ground in Washington. But there are still bills to be paid and departments to be run. Bohner knows what to do. He needs to find the guts to do it.
Tim
True.
Almost true. Pay the bills, and permanently close the departments that aren't absolutely necessary. We can't afford them.
Maybe.
No, he needs to find some integrity. With the absence of core beliefs, finding that integrity may prove to be as difficult for him as it is for his counterpart in the Senate.
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