Eye Candy

[JackD201]

It's the one vacuum sub-platter I don't have (I don't have any of the non vacuums). I bet eventually, I'll get one.

With the vacuum hold down engaged the LP essentially becomes a 30,150 to 30,200 gram LP. LOL.

 

[rockitman]

Who could blame you for that, Jack.

I do wonder if the sound of your turntable wouldn't be more "correct" (I know it is a dangerous term to use around audiophiles) if you had opted for the acrylic sub-platter rather than one of the two heavier alternatives. I have no doubt that all three provide very different sonic results, all excellent by anyone's definition, as should be expected given the asking price.

According to TechDAS, the acrylic platter provides a softer more forgiving sound. The duralumin platter is more balanced and the SS platter more dynamic. I have the SS upper platter on order to complement my duralumin option. I will not be seeking acrylic for this turntable.

 

[BobM]

Funny, you would expect that the higher you go in terms of $$$ spent the closer you should come to the "ideal" sound of music. However it seems that there are always tradeoffs and at higher $$$ values the designers have favored one over the other. This results in a flavoring preference due to materials, construction techniques, etc. So high $$$ components (OK, most all components regardless of price) don't always sound the same when reaching for the ideal sound as you might expect at first.

I know a purchaser should always try out a component before making a decision, if that is possible. And at higher $$$ spent it would be stupid not to do that, but it certainly becomes very difficult when the rarity of these components and the small number of dealers carrying them in stock are taken into consideration. And show conditions, being what they are, are not a great place to do this, but that may be the only available possibility to many of us. And none of that is a guarantee of how it is going to perform at home in your own system.

 

[audioblazer]

Sperling TT. So pretty

 

[MylesBAstor]

Funny, you would expect that the higher you go in terms of $$$ spent the closer you should come to the "ideal" sound of music. However it seems that there are always tradeoffs and at higher $$$ values the designers have favored one over the other. This results in a flavoring preference due to materials, construction techniques, etc. So high $$$ components (OK, most all components regardless of price) don't always sound the same when reaching for the ideal sound as you might expect at first.

I know a purchaser should always try out a component before making a decision, if that is possible. And at higher $$$ spent it would be stupid not to do that, but it certainly becomes very difficult when the rarity of these components and the small number of dealers carrying them in stock are taken into consideration. And show conditions, being what they are, are not a great place to do this, but that may be the only available possibility to many of us. And none of that is a guarantee of how it is going to perform at home in your own system.

I'm not so sure that I agree. I would suggest that the neutrality of the table is allowing you to hear more of the flavor of the cartridge and to a much larger extent now in my experience, the colorations of the phono stage.

 

[rockitman]

My mono rig eye candy...

 

[puroagave]

My mono rig eye candy...

is that a beatles 'red wax' mono you're spinning there??

 

[rockitman]

is that a beatles 'red wax' mono you're spinning there??

yes, the 1982 issue (Rubber Soul). I have acquired all of them save for the 1986 White Album mono issue, that I am waiting for a better deal. They sound so much better than their stereo counterparts, imo

 

[BobM]

I'm not so sure that I agree. I would suggest that the neutrality of the table is allowing you to hear more of the flavor of the cartridge and to a much larger extent now in my experience, the colorations of the phono stage.

You could be right about higher $$$ tables being more neutral overall. However, I was including all components in my statement ... amps, cartridges, speakers, et al.

 

[XV-1]

 

[MRJAZZ]

I will host a Calypso Reference this week-end - it is the one shown in the picture. Fortunately I am now using the Oracle Premier - both speak French and have a family look, I do not expect big fights ...

Would love to hear about the shoot out between the CALYPSO REF versus the ORACLE.

CHEERS, ....T

 

[JackD201]

View attachment 14661

Did Pioneer clone the 1200 or did they take over from National Panasonic/Technics?

 

[XV-1]

Did Pioneer clone the 1200 or did they take over from National Panasonic/Technics?

Good question?

I don't think Pioneer would have built any production line themselves, so either using Panasonic's production line or China like the cheap Audio technica's. Japan is stil pretty good at sharing manufacturing. Considering Pioneer still service Exclusive turntables in Japan, there is expertise there to improve the 1200.

time will tell, but they will never be back to the glory days. I do like the look thou

 

[MylesBAstor]

 

[MylesBAstor]

 

[pcosta]

My Latest upgrade. New Black Night platter on my TW Acustic Raven AC

 

[MylesBAstor]

My Latest upgrade. New Black Night platter on my TW Acustic Raven ACView attachment 14796

Sweet! Refresh my memory. What's the arm in the rear?

 

[audioarcher]

Sweet! Refresh my memory. What's the arm in the rear?

Looks like a Dynavector.

 

[MylesBAstor]

Yes but I don't think it is. I saw something on that arm on FB IIRC.

 

[microstrip]

Looks like a Dynavector.

Yes. I would say a DV507MKII, but it has a parallelepiped type counterweight, not the cylindrical ex-libris of the 505, and it lacks the magnetic damper. Unbelievable resemblance!