State of the industry - Roy Gregory Editorial

[morricab]

Maybe some of these pro channels cheat. Unless they state what they are doing well never know but many videos are too good And too seamless which doesn't exist. There are processing apps

You could post both pro and mobile for a compare.

The files are very large as they were recorded at 24/96....cannot put them on Vimeo...

 

[andromedaaudio]

And you just dodged rather than addressing what you say when challenged...I confirmed nothing...easy for you to say something...get experience then sling mud.

Thanks for the second confirmation you spoil me morricab .
Lets get back on topic not horns

 

[morricab]

The files are very large as they were recorded at 24/96....cannot put them on Vimeo...

Also, the recorder doesn’t include video...it’s only audio.

 

[morricab]

Thanks for the second conformation you spoil me morricab .
Lets get back on topic not horns

And your injection of a video of your system was on topic?

 

[andromedaaudio]

And your injection of a video of your system was on topic?

And what preceded my post .....
A ......
Vid

What preceded was a video about a kind of reproducer which name cannot be mentioned

 

[wil]

Ked, this is a very interesting statement on the current state of the industry. We are comparing two YouTube videos and discussing them on an audio forum on our phones or computers - a much different exchange than what we might have had a decade ago. The owner of the vintage system is clearly enjoying himself, and he seems a collector/hobbyist. The second system will surely impress a bunch of audiophiles. It is expensive and comprised of some of the latest/greatest. It's curious that neither seems to be playing an LP.

Why is it curious they are not playing vinyl?

I agree, the video of the horn/tube system sounds better -- fwiw.

 

[MarkusBarkus]

Our view is that videos are valuable for the industry.

No doubt, they are both interesting and useful, even if they have their limitations. In the late 90s, I was leading the implementation side of an effort to drive users from online sites to dealers (not audio industry).

There are many things to figure out, but linking dealers to product videos and articles, creates tighter integration among manufacturers, dealers and your online brand. And stickiness. And value-add for manufacturers and dealers.

Kind of "smarter" banner ads, which is ancient by now. Glad to see you guys are extending the paradigm.

 

[bonzo75]

Why is it curious they are not playing vinyl?

I agree, the video of the horn/tube system sounds better -- fwiw.

The horn system plays many LPs and digital, often with Oppo. I have posted both. Across from heavy metal, female vocals, concertos and full orchestra.

 

[PeterA]

And what preceded my post .....
A ......
Vid

What preceded was a video about a kind of reproducer which name cannot be mentioned

The video of your system is also representative of the state of the industry which is the topic of this thread. You are a small manufacturer discussing and spreading the word about your speakers on an audio forum and sharing a video demonstrating the speakers performance. You sometimes discuss your competition. You are putting the video out there for people to judge your product and market it. If this does not represent one aspect of the current state of the industry, I don’t know what does.

 

[andromedaaudio]

Sure but the industry is a lot more then a diy horn /tube combination apparently beating a pair of CH / wilsons on you tube .

Apperently my vid was a case of bad marketing as well ,lol

 

[tima]

I can hear you guys now -- "Youtube sound is so bad why bother."

Generally I prefer to read. I can read faster than some guy can talk, vary my reading speed, and can reread if I find something interesting. Reading is active, it spurs my thought; video is passive, it consumes two senses and quells my thought. To hear and listen, video is okay.

If you want wizbangery, let me read with links - buttons - to turn on and off music samples, not switch to another page or sometube, just play music or sound example. Let me integrate my thought with my hearing. This is not a knock on videos - visuals have their place but often are too distracting (for me) -- this is my view on replacing text with a video.

 

[bonzo75]

Generally I prefer to read. I can read faster than some guy can talk, vary my reading speed, and can reread if I find something interesting. Reading is active, it spurs my thought; video is passive, it consumes two senses and quells my thought. To hear and listen, video is okay.

It is not either or. It is & - and introduces music, added benefit.

 

[tima]

It is not either or. It is & - and introduces music, added benefit.

Sure, but I did not say either/or - each in its place. Usually I prefer that introduction or added benefit as text or spoken word.

 

[morricab]

Sure but the industry is a lot more then a diy horn /tube combination apparently beating a pair of CH / wilsons on you tube .

Apperently my vid was a case of bad marketing as well ,lol

Was it DIY? I thought it was an ALTEC VOTT A5...

 

[morricab]

Those of you wanting to hear good sound in videos might want to check out Synergistic Research. Ted Denney and I are friends and I recommended a recording system that worked well for me on professional recordings in the past. We used AKG 414 microphones and a Sound Devices box. With proper mic placement, the sound quality can be good enough to make some sound judgments, even over video.

I think AVShowrooms does a decent job...Peter B was one of the first video show reporters of any note. I think he uses some decent gear too.

 

[sbnx]

Generally I prefer to read. I can read faster than some guy can talk, vary my reading speed, and can reread if I find something interesting. Reading is active, it spurs my thought; video is passive, it consumes two senses and quells my thought. To hear and listen, video is okay.

If you want wizbangery, let me read with links - buttons - to turn on and off music samples, not switch to another page or sometube, just play music or sound example. Let me integrate my thought with my hearing. This is not a knock on videos - visuals have their place but often are too distracting (for me) -- this is my view on replacing text with a video.

Tima, You are a special case -- you are a writer & reviewer. The links and stuff would be cool.

Reviews in magazines tend to be pretty heavily edited down to the minimum as there is a max page count allowed. The XVX got extra pages because, well, it is a statement Wilson speaker. I guess it takes extra convincing for products that are north of $300K. What I like about videos is often they are less scripted and you get more off-the-cuff comments about the sound or setup issues or whatever. We can read the expression of the person and tell if they are genuinely excited or rather meh about the product. We can see exactly how the speakers or system is setup. To me, there is tons more information in a video than can be covered in a 3-5 page layout in a magazine.

For example, take the Michael Fremer electrical upgrade video. That was covered in a massive amount of detail. Can you imagine if that was printed in Stereophile. It would have been about 1 page with a 2nd page of a few pictures.

Not saying you are wrong. Everyone digests information differently. I have seen some videos with a complete transcript. So someone could just read through it and then decide if they wanted to actually watch it.

 

[Lee]

I think AVShowrooms does a decent job...Peter B was one of the first video show reporters of any note. I think he uses some decent gear too.

Peter is a good friend. He has done a great job!

 

[tima]

What I like about videos is often they are less scripted and you get more off-the-cuff comments about the sound or setup issues or whatever. We can read the expression of the person and tell if they are genuinely excited or rather meh about the product. We can see exactly how the speakers or system is setup. To me, there is tons more information in a video than can be covered in a 3-5 page layout in a magazine.

Fair enough, I agree different people ingest information in different ways. I find people talking about audio take way too long to get to their point. Written reviews can have the same flaw but scanning let's me skip through the less than useful portions.

Webzines don't have the page structure of print media.

 

[MarkusBarkus]

I find people talking about audio take way too long to get to their point.

...truer words were never spoken. I understand that most online presenters are amateurs, but here's a hint: watch your own videos and work on, um, er you know you guys, I've said it before, um, your, um, um weak points.

 

[sbnx]

I have said this before. The major qualification necessary to be an audio reviewer is to take a 1000 words to say what could be said in 100 .

However, um, i do, um, like the raw nature of the videos which seem to take 10,000 words.