Videos - oomph, tympani, menace, power
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Telarc is described by Robert Easton (founder w/ Jack Renner) as "the first United States audiophile digital audio recording company, providing commercial services for recording and computer-based editing." Telarc used the Soundstream recording system invented by Thomas G. Stockham, Jr in 1976.
"Unlike its competitors, Soundstream's analog circuitry was transformerless, permitting a frequency response to 0Hz (DC). This accounted for the "bass drum heard round the world" review of the 1978 Telarc recording of Frederick Fennell: The Cleveland Symphonic Winds.Soundstream collaborated with Telarc for several years, producing legendary symphonic recordings; the earliest ones are chronicled in Renner.[10] The care with which Telarc selected and used its microphones and audio console, combined with the Soundstream recorder, created a gold standard for audiophile recording. Telarc has re-released many of its original Soundstream recordings in SACD format." Wikpedia
I believe the Telarc 'Fanfare' recording was done at a 16-bit 50kHz sampling rate.
Early on Telarc was known for it's impactful -- some say exaggerated and forward -- bass. Some early listeners knew that what Telarc accomplished pre-saged the digital future in audio.
More info in an Interesting article (pdf) here: The Dawn of Digital Recording.
Actually, Tim, it’s an SSD. Which I suppose is really just a very large memory card of sorts.
My entire playback config (system + room) entails…
- OPPO 205 CDP
- Jena Labs USB cable - cryo'ed by Jena Labs
- Wyred-4-Sound X1000 Class D monoblock amps w/aftermarket internal ACME fuses cryo’ed by Jena Labs
- VMPS RM-40 speakers
- 2 Rhythmik E15 subwoofers on my custom points and aftermarket cryo'ed power cables
- BPT silver balanced ic’s – cryo’ed by Jena Labs
- Jena Labs single-ended ic's for subwoofers. Cryo'ed by Jena Labs.
- Silver speaker cables – (I forget the mfg’er and model) cryo-ed by Jena Labs
- 4 Jena Labs Hubbell wall outlets – cryo’ed by Jena Labs
- 3 Jena Labs The TWO line conditioners and built-in PC's – cryo’ed by Jena Labs
- My custom racking system on my custom points
- Romex house wiring – cryo’ed
- 4 dedicated circuits/lines
- My custom speaker cable lifters
- Minimally furnished former kitchen with a difficult-to-work-with 12 x 21 x 8ft shoebox-dimensioned room
- No aftermarket or custom room treatments.
If it seems I'm a fan of Jena Labs and cryo-treating, I guess I am.
Perhaps more detail than you wanted but that pretty much covers everything from a physical perspective. Pretty humble equipment fer sure. But as with anybody listing their gear, a list of hardware never tells the whole story behind somebody’s playback config. This is why I think it’s somewhat meaningless or at least misleading listing only one’s hardware.
That said and with you being a bit of the philosophical type hopefully you'll appreciate my saying that when listing my system contents, I’d be remiss if I didn’t at least make mention there always exists the philosophical, the implementation, and primary focus aspects behind it all.
After all, isn’t that where the rubber does or does not meet the road? Putting it all together applying one’s philosophies, strategies, methods, focus points, etc. throughout?
I completely agree. As I think would @Carlos269. The end result, as judged by listening from the listening seat or wherever one is in the room. The question one must ask himself is whether or not it matters what anyone else thinks.
Thanks for listing your system. I encourage all participants to include their system in their profile.
You’re welcome, Tim. And you’re right. See my new signature below that hopefully tells a bit more the complete story of my pursuits to this very day.
Great music! I'm not a fan of your recording though, lacks fluidity, bloom, colour (naturalness?). If you have a turntable or tape deck around, would love to hear how that sounds.
That piece that you commented on is quite challenging even torturous to many a system and frankly I don’t come across many videos of analog-sourced systems of challenging pieces like this. Of those few analog-sourced system videos I do come across they seem to fail pretty miserably in one way or another.
But I find it interesting that you would suggest hearing an analog-sourced version in a thread entitled “Ooomph, menace, and power”. After all, isn’t restricted/constricted dynamics one of vinyl’s biggest weaknesses? Shouldn’t dynamics play an important role when striving to achieve a greater sense of realism? If yes, then wouldn’t my switching to vinyl at least in this thread be a big step in the wrong direction?
Never a doubt in my mind that you love analog but by no means does that somehow imply analog is genuinely superior to digital since both sources have their peaks and valleys. Nice try though.
Regardless, why don’t you post an analog-sourced in-room video (anybody’s) to better demonstrate what you’d prefer to hear while adhering to the OP title and theme so at least I can get a better perspective what you’re talking about?
Great music and very demanding choices,..That piece that you commented on is quite challenging even torturous to many a system and frankly I don’t come across many videos of analog-sourced systems of challenging pieces like this. Of those few analog-sourced system videos I do come across they seem to fail pretty miserably in one way or another.
But I find it interesting that you would suggest hearing an analog-sourced version in a thread entitled “Ooomph, menace, and power”. After all, isn’t restricted/constricted dynamics one of vinyl’s biggest weaknesses? Shouldn’t dynamics play an important role when striving to achieve a greater sense of realism? If yes, then wouldn’t my switching to vinyl at least in this thread be a big step in the wrong direction?
Never a doubt in my mind that you love analog but by no means does that somehow imply analog is genuinely superior to digital since both sources have their peaks and valleys. Nice try though.
Regardless, why don’t you post an analog-sourced in-room video (anybody’s) to better demonstrate what you’d prefer to hear while adhering to the OP title and theme so at least I can get a better perspective what you’re talking about?
BTW, I recently recorded these videos and I think both turned out pretty well. Maybe you could post a similarly challenging in-room video like one of these?
Your post....well said
CD Playback rec: March 2024
Michael Pohl
Sauer Organ
Berliner Dom
1993
Samsung S21 cellphone on stand (i need a much better mic/record setup)
Michael Pohl
Sauer Organ
Berliner Dom
1993
Samsung S21 cellphone on stand (i need a much better mic/record setup)
SACD Playback, rec: August 2023
Samsung S21 Ultra cellphone (handheld, sorry...)
Ormandy / Philadelphia
Verdi Requiem
1964, remastered 2000
drive.google.com
Samsung S21 Ultra cellphone (handheld, sorry...)
Ormandy / Philadelphia
Verdi Requiem
1964, remastered 2000
Verdi-Requiem_Dies-Irae_Ormandy_PHL_1964_SACD_12August2023.mp4
drive.google.com
I wasn't saying analog playback would necessarily be better in this case. The version on Tidal sounds better to me and the 'official' YouTube version below (although not a system video). I mentioned I would like to hear your system with an analog source as an aside because I'm guessing it will sound great.That piece that you commented on is quite challenging even torturous to many a system and frankly I don’t come across many videos of analog-sourced systems of challenging pieces like this. Of those few analog-sourced system videos I do come across they seem to fail pretty miserably in one way or another.
But I find it interesting that you would suggest hearing an analog-sourced version in a thread entitled “Ooomph, menace, and power”. After all, isn’t restricted/constricted dynamics one of vinyl’s biggest weaknesses? Shouldn’t dynamics play an important role when striving to achieve a greater sense of realism? If yes, then wouldn’t my switching to vinyl at least in this thread be a big step in the wrong direction?
Never a doubt in my mind that you love analog but by no means does that somehow imply analog is genuinely superior to digital since both sources have their peaks and valleys. Nice try though.
Regardless, why don’t you post an analog-sourced in-room video (anybody’s) to better demonstrate what you’d prefer to hear while adhering to the OP title and theme so at least I can get a better perspective what you’re talking about?
BTW, I recently recorded these videos and I think both turned out pretty well. Maybe you could post a similarly challenging in-room video like one of these?
Equivalent clip starts 12.38
As I suggested earlier, you really should post somebody's video of a vinyl-sourced system playing back an impactful recording so at least I can get a better understanding what you mean by this great sound. IOW, how could I possibly understand if all you have is words?
Well I like the Mahler vid 4 posts above....Thanks, Rexp. I think.
IOW, how could I possibly understand if all you have is words?
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