He should make his own.
Beyond that, if you needed a budget arm like the 3012R the ViV is much better.
American Sound, "The Absolute Nothing"
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Beyond that, if you needed a budget arm like the 3012R the ViV is much better.
That is right. And the tension and type of thread can be optimized for minimal influence of the motor on the platter. This all effects the sound.
The Nothing Racks have isolation built into them, but the top platform is one piece. My wood rack with steel plates has similar technology to the Nothing Rack. David and I worked on them concurrently and shared developments. He liked that I was able to separate my motor from the turntable (Micro Seiki) at the time and I followed this with the AS2000. This idea was adapted and advanced in the new stand design for The Absolute Nothing. I will not share the details, but it is a very clever solution to the problem. It provides both an extremely stable platform but also isolates the two units from each other. It is an integral part of the design of the turntable.
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It has nothing to do with budget. Performance is the only criteria. The 3012R needs to be set up properly. The customers for the new table have no such cost constraints. Curiously, none seem to use the arm you suggest. Over time, we may learn what owners decide to use. It seems kind of silly to speculate.
Peter,
Do you know if there was any type of FEA done on the 3D models to find the one that controlled resonance the best? I would think it would be cost prohibitive to manufacture multiple samples for a listening test..
I'm assuming that a 300 series stainless was used for the platter as this series is non magnetic for the most part.
Hello trekpilot,
I do not know those details. I have the impression from following this project that at this level David did not feel very restricted by research and development costs.
What an incredible design and flawless execution! This table is truly the stuff dreams are made of. Congratulations, David, on creating such a magnificent piece.
Republicoftexas69
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Lord,I think, according to the designers, the concept is that it has no sound
. Regardless I am sure it is quite the kit, though my wife thought it looked horrid. I told her no worries it is way beyond our budget.It has been my privilege to hear an A-B comparison of The Absolute Nothing turntable to the modified AS1000 that was previously in the system.
In my listening experience, there have been times that the first note or two have proven determinative of ‘something different'.
That was the case here. There was a new level of transparency, of ‘not-there-ness’ from the front end of the system, meaning the turntable / arm / cartridge that my ears perceived immediately, but that took a while for my mind to process.
I simply had to make a new place in my head for what I was being given by this system —but what I was Not being given, as well. I believe that’s why it took a little while to understand the experience of The Absolute Nothing: I had to recalibrate my mind to the new input.
Said simply, I experienced immensely less between the Ella Fitzgerald performance and me than ever before.
Sometimes I hear Ella ’thinking on the fly’ when she sings, as in “April in Paris” where, just before the song ends, she changes the timbre of her voice to mimic Louis Armstrong’s most recent trumpet tone. But on this solo recording, Ella is straight ahead, not thinking, but simply presenting what she knew was the interpretation of the song as She wanted it to sound.
Harry Pearson used to speak about ‘the lifting of a veil’ when something was revealed to him. In This instance, there weren’t any veils left: it was just Ella and me.
I Told you it was a privilege.
In my listening experience, there have been times that the first note or two have proven determinative of ‘something different'.
That was the case here. There was a new level of transparency, of ‘not-there-ness’ from the front end of the system, meaning the turntable / arm / cartridge that my ears perceived immediately, but that took a while for my mind to process.
I simply had to make a new place in my head for what I was being given by this system —but what I was Not being given, as well. I believe that’s why it took a little while to understand the experience of The Absolute Nothing: I had to recalibrate my mind to the new input.
Said simply, I experienced immensely less between the Ella Fitzgerald performance and me than ever before.
Sometimes I hear Ella ’thinking on the fly’ when she sings, as in “April in Paris” where, just before the song ends, she changes the timbre of her voice to mimic Louis Armstrong’s most recent trumpet tone. But on this solo recording, Ella is straight ahead, not thinking, but simply presenting what she knew was the interpretation of the song as She wanted it to sound.
Harry Pearson used to speak about ‘the lifting of a veil’ when something was revealed to him. In This instance, there weren’t any veils left: it was just Ella and me.
I Told you it was a privilege.
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@Republicoftexas69 wrote: "Lord, . Regardless I am sure it is quite the kit, though my wife thought it looked horrid. I told her no worries it is way beyond our budget."
When it comes to unaffordability —at least as far as My wallet might reach-- I understand and concur.
While I understand the eye-roll, I would like to add that, when I first saw this sculptural object at the place of manufacture, I had turned a corner ‘and there it was’: I simply could not avert my eyes.
This turntable has tremendous presence.
While I don’t know your wife, I suspect that —were she to be the kind of person who revisits things after a first impression— she might just look differently upon The Absolute Nothing, particularly were she able to experience it in person.
I happen to have been in awe of it from the moment I saw it. That said, my appreciation has grown into affection with more time spent in its company.
As we say in the car world, some vehicles are ’not for the faint of heart’. This turntable’s appearance might not appeal to all visual tastes; it’s sound, however, is its raison d’etre.
. Regardless I am sure it is quite the kit, though my wife thought it looked horrid. I told her no worries it is way beyond our budget."When it comes to unaffordability —at least as far as My wallet might reach-- I understand and concur.
While I understand the eye-roll, I would like to add that, when I first saw this sculptural object at the place of manufacture, I had turned a corner ‘and there it was’: I simply could not avert my eyes.
This turntable has tremendous presence.
While I don’t know your wife, I suspect that —were she to be the kind of person who revisits things after a first impression— she might just look differently upon The Absolute Nothing, particularly were she able to experience it in person.
I happen to have been in awe of it from the moment I saw it. That said, my appreciation has grown into affection with more time spent in its company.
As we say in the car world, some vehicles are ’not for the faint of heart’. This turntable’s appearance might not appeal to all visual tastes; it’s sound, however, is its raison d’etre.
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@bonzo75
The first several listening sessions at this location were with an uprated AS1000 table, using an SME 3012r arm, SME proprietary cable and a van den Hul Colibri.
The Absolute Nothing listening was with the same arm and cable using the Neumann cartridge mounted in a different SME headshell. I was unable to remain on site long enough to hear the Colibri in the other 3012r arm. ( I Hate schedule conflicts, but had to leave for a previous commitment; it was, sadly, unavoidable )
I hope this is helpful.
The first several listening sessions at this location were with an uprated AS1000 table, using an SME 3012r arm, SME proprietary cable and a van den Hul Colibri.
The Absolute Nothing listening was with the same arm and cable using the Neumann cartridge mounted in a different SME headshell. I was unable to remain on site long enough to hear the Colibri in the other 3012r arm. ( I Hate schedule conflicts, but had to leave for a previous commitment; it was, sadly, unavoidable )
I hope this is helpful.
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