Any Bergmann "Galder" owners here ?

[DasguteOhr]

Sonic enhancements: I have shied away from the Ortofon sound, I really don't think it suits this setup. I like the Sussurro sound and, hopefully, will have on loan soon, the Paua. Possibly the Sussurro Mk2 Gold edition.

But you know that there are sonic differences between the Ortofon series for the international market and those developed for Europe. There is a significant difference between those with a neutral, slim, detailed sound, e.g. Cadenza Black, A 95 and others that have meat on the bones and play very emotionally, e.g. (exact series) Venice or Vienna or mc a 100. I just wanted to point out to you so that you don't miss out on the beautiful things from Ortofon. There are some special models that clearly stand out in Ortofon's history.
Ortofon Vero SOTA *(State of the Art)
Ortofon Mc 30 super mk II(here you need at least 70db gain, otherwise it sounds average. then it plays three classes higher)
Ortofon rondo bronce
Ortofon cadenza bronce
Exact series( valencia, venice, vienna)
MC A 100( 100years ortofon)
Spu royal maybe more modern style,and spu meister silver more resolution as other spu models.
I own six of the cartridges on the list, I wouldn't recommend them here if I knew them inside and out

 

[jeromelang]

Have you got your shiny new Modi yet? I had a Modi and now have a Galder - wonderful turntables! Yours sounds really interesting, please post up some photos and impressions.

Just as an 'FYI', I have an umami red on my Signature steel Galder and think that it sounds great. Did you go with the Lyra?

My Modi/Thor arrived 3 weeks ago with the custom Delrin Platter and Delrin Weight, and my dealer fitted it with the polymer-bodied Lyra Skala.

I'm happy to see that there is some smoothness and shine to the surfaces of the Delrin materials and it's not all rough, black and dark.
But I now wish I had insisted to have the plinth body enamelled with the metallic red gloss.....

The Skala (new piece) sounds better with the 100ohms setting then with the 249ohms setting.
Prevously on the Gyro SE/SME V and the same Pass Labs Aleph Ono, the previous piece of Skala sound better on 249ohms
(it was unlistenable at 100ohms)
So I am a bit puzzled why the 2 pieces of Skala would sound that much different....

My observation

As I've discovered on many other turntables already, the umbilical power supply cable always have a directionality - and since the connectors at either ends are identical, i could swap them around, and i found that the direction which way they are connected does indeed affects the sound, and only one way will always sound better than the other. Bergmann users should check theirs, if you haven't done so already (and dun give me any crap that once cables are are connected and used, their directionality will be set that way - no, they don't!)

I found that the lower air flow setting sounds more opened, laid-back and more relaxed.

I also found that if the pump/motor is powered off and re-powered up again prior to playing every side, the sound is very much better. Halfway through the record, if the turntable is stopped momentarily for whatever reasons, the pump/motor needs to be shut down and re-powered up again before continue playing to sound it's best.

 

[Argonaut]

'm happy to see that there is some smoothness and shine to the surfaces of the Delrin materials and it's not all rough, black and dark.
But I now wish I had insisted to have the plinth body made with the metallic red body.....

For my part I wouldn’t have too many regrets , your new Bergmann looks pretty fab imho .

 

[Corinthian]

For my part I wouldn’t have too many regrets , your new Bergmann looks pretty fab imho .

Absolutely! That looks wonderful, and if not unique, it must be close to being it.

 

[Corinthian]

My Modi/Thor arrived 3 weeks ago with the custom Delrin Platter and Delrin Weight, and my dealer fitted it with the polymer-bodied Lyra Skala.

I'm happy to see that there is some smoothness and shine to the surfaces of the Delrin materials and it's not all rough, black and dark.
But I now wish I had insisted to have the plinth body enamelled with the metallic red gloss.....

The Skala (new piece) sounds better with the 100ohms setting then with the 249ohms setting.
Prevously on the Gyro SE/SME V and the same Pass Labs Aleph Ono, the previous piece of Skala sound better on 249ohms
(it was unlistenable at 100ohms)
So I am a bit puzzled why the 2 pieces of Skala would sound that much different....

My observation

As I've discovered on many other turntables already, the umbilical power supply cable always have a directionality - and since the connectors at either ends are identical, i could swap them around, and i found that the direction which way they are connected does indeed affects the sound, and only one way will always sound better than the other. Bergmann users should check theirs, if you haven't done so already (and dun give me any crap that once cables are are connected and used, their directionality will be set that way - no, they don't!)

I found that the lower air flow setting sounds more opened, laid-back and more relaxed.

I also found that if the pump/motor is powered off and re-powered up again prior to playing every side, the sound is very much better. Halfway through the record, if the turntable is stopped momentarily for whatever reasons, the pump/motor needs to be shut down and re-powered up again before continue playing to sound it's best.

Thank you for taking the time to post up your thoughts - you must be delighted with how that has turned out, I know that I would be. Exactly like you, I was so close to asking for a red plinth for my Modi - I'd seen some photos of one online and thought that it looked great. My previous turntable ( oracle paris mk5) was red and I loved it! I wish I'd requested the red Modi now, but can't remember why I decided against it in the end.

I'm really interested to read what you say about airflow, I've never given much thought to changing it on mine or shut down/power up, although i just keep the platter spinning during LP changes (Galder has the vacuum hold own feature). I might have to try that and see if I can hear any differences.

 

[jeromelang]

Haha, I just put in a request for my dealer to check with Johnnie whether the Galder can be made with non-metallic plinth(s), platter, clamp and footers...

Wish me luck

 

[Corinthian]

Haha, I just put in a request for my dealer to check with Johnnie whether the Galder can be made with non-metallic plinth(s), platter, clamp and footers...

Wish me luck

Now that's going to be interesting! I was thinking a little more about your materials choice and what effect that it might have on sound reproduction. Have you had the chance to compare your delrin Modi and one of a standard aluminium platter construction? If so, what differences did you notice, and how much does the delrin platter weigh? Does it have any effect on static build up?

I was lucky enough to have both a standard aluminium platter/composite plinth Modi and a steel platter/aluminium plinth Galder for a couple of weeks at home to compare side by side. I was using an umami red cartridge at the time but also had a spare Ortofon cadenza black as well, so tried both cartridges with both turntables. I was really quite surprised at the differences between the two Bergmann models. The Galder brought out a lot more weight, richness, depth, and detail to the music - to my ear at least, and i thought that the difference was clear, not subtle - and the bass! I just wonder how much of this was down to the materials used (noting the relative masses of the two turntables) and/or design differences - both had odin tonearms. I was very happy with my Modi and think it is an excellent turntable, but I just had to keep the Galder after hearing it.

Let us know what Johnnie thinks of your suggestion. If you do get a Galder like the one you mention above I would be so interested to read your opinion on it, especially if you can compare and contrast to others made of different plinth and platter materials - it sounds like it might be a real one-off. Get the plinth done in red, go on!

 

[Urbinator]

That's got me thinking. My local dealer has just received the Galder Signature, which has a stainless steel platter. I wonder if they would be willing to swap it for the standard one to experience the difference.

 

[Urbinator]

Haha, I just put in a request for my dealer to check with Johnnie whether the Galder can be made with non-metallic plinth(s), platter, clamp and footers...

Wish me luck

You could ask them directly. He is pretty amicable to tweaks. Copper platters are one I would love to play with.