Any of you guys (girls) ever get fired from your job unjustly and ...

Just log out and it should be fixed. You can also use a different browser or clear up your cookies. I mean, ,your browser's cookies :D.

Well thank you very much Amir; I just clicked on [Log Out], and it did the trick! :)

* Now can you see that computers are not my forte? I said it before, I never had a computer of my entire life prior to two years ago! And the first time ever I touched one was perhaps five years ago at my local library!

I ain't a computer guy, I'm an Audio guy and a Nature lover! ...A musician, an artist, an Earth gardener! A Cinema lover...

Thanks again Amir, this is the best thing I've learned here so far at What's Best, and for me that's good enough for a FULL endorsement! ...And I will do my very Best here to participate with Full Benefit for ALL! ...Including myself! Hi ha! :)
 
There are several MLOC refugees on this site. I will not name them. Let's just say I ran a foul of certain magazine publisher. The thread has been sanitized. I've moved on.
 
@LordoftheRingsEE and your original question...

I will just concentrate on your question regarding unfairly being fired from your work etc... Remember, life is not fair and companies are not democracies. Let me just say that what really matters is who gets the last laugh. I have been plenty screwed (not fired) by past bosses when I challenged them directly, and the bottom line is this: two ex tech CEOs I worked with are still just that after 10 years - ex; one of them went into the food business as a store manager, the other stopped working and not because he/she made money to live off of. Another recent ex boss (a real giant) had the nerve to look me up on linkedin - despite the fact I had taken him/her out of my network - then sent his/her resume into my current work place, only for that resume to show up on my desk - let me tell you, that felt really good.

Bottom line - what goes around comes around; it is true. Defend your interests and never lose your mind.
 
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Remember the only onethat really owes you free speech is the government.

Spent almost a decade as an elected official (Lower House Representative). I've never been fired. I've never been banned. Do term limits count? Hahahahaha!

From my experience, PC dumbed down a lot of laws and took a host of viable options off the table.
 
There are several MLOC refugees on this site. I will not name them. Let's just say I ran a foul of certain magazine publisher. The thread has been sanitized. I've moved on.

Sorry Greg but what does MLOC mean?

* If you noticed there are absolutely no names at all mentioned in this thread; and the goal here is exactly to not mention any, but to express, to share your feelings, your emotions, your ideas in the less than best circumstances of both worlds; the real one outside with the job(s) that you lost (have been fired from), and the cyber world (banning)...

:)

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--- For me the most important thing in life is to be true to yourself first and to all others who surround you and with who you interact/ed in life. I have already seen few people coming forward and having the honesty to share some of those feelings.
And that is the goal of this thread; to bring out What's Best for the soul! ...Sort of speach, you guys know what I mean. ...Play the cards straight! Discuss things that are concrete and affect us all, so we can contemplate, view, talk, planifify a better world to live in.
And straight and open communication with others is the key!
 
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Sorry Greg but what does MLOC mean?

* If you noticed there are absolutely no names at all mentioned in this thread; and the goal here is exactly to not mention any, but to express, to share your feelings, your emotions, your ideas in the less than best circumstances of both worlds; the real one outside with the job(s) that you lost (have been fired from), and the cyber world (banning)...

:)

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--- For me the most important thing in life is to be true to yourself first and to all others who surround you and with who you interact/ed in life. I have already seen few people coming forward and having the honesty to share some of those feelings.
And that is the goal of this thread; to bring out What's Best for the soul! ...Sort of speach, you guys know what I mean. ...Play the cards straight! Discuss things that are concrete and affect us all, so we can contemplate, view, talk, planifify a better world to live in.
And straight and open communication with others is the key!

http://www.martinloganowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9292
 
Interesting!

No wonder you live on The Island! Is Saltspring a little too small for you? :)

Interesting Rich that you just mentioned Saltsprings Island, which is close to where I live; because in the past I have been let go unjustly from one contractor who lives there!
I called him (many many years ago) and asked him why he let me go; he said: "Robert I just don't need your services anymore!"

I was one of his best worker, but he could not handle some false rumors circulating around from a couple of individuals.
My work performance was impeccable! And he made very good money from it!

Several people for who I worked in the past are now millionaires. And because I worked for so many employers in my lifetime, the only few ones from who I was unjustly 'fired' or 'let go' represent less than 5%. And even them will let you know that I was one of their top guns!

Rich, you live in Kelowna, which I know very well, and I worked all around your area before; right in Kelowna in some orchards, Oyama, Windfield, Vernon, Peachland, Summerland, Penticton, Naramata, Okanagan Falls, Osoyoos, ...and all around in the back country side higher up where I planted trees all over.

The Island where I now live for the last fifteen years plus (Vancouver Island); I know this Island very well as I also planted trees all over it. ...In places that are magically beautiful, that very few people have the opportunity to visit, as the accesses are only by helicopters, or boats.

I have seen the face of death several times as well... And when you have those close encounters, there ain't much you are afraid of! Physically, financially, spiritually, and socially!

*** But the cyber world is still very new to me, and that I have less much control!
I am an extremely generous person, and giving is my true gain.
And if that gift is taken from me, I can crumble!

'Ma maitrise n'est pas encore perfectionnee!' -> My cyber world mastering is lacking!
 
Rich, you live in Kelowna, which I know very well, and I worked all around your area before; right in Kelowna in some orchards, Oyama, Windfield, Vernon, Peachland, Summerland, Penticton, Naramata, Okanagan Falls, Osoyoos, ...and all around in the back country side higher up where I planted trees all over.

It's a small world (but I wouldn't want to paint it)!
 
That would be a lot of apples, pears, peaches, apricots, plums, cherries, ...
{Used to pick ten bins+ of apples every single day!}
=> That's five tons+ on some days, all hand-picked!

And that would be a lot of trees as well (over two millions); fir, cedar, hemlock, pine, ...
{Never less than one thousand every single day, and up to three thousands+ on some days!}
=> That's a small forest each single day! ...By hand!

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*** On the Audio side of things; I built my own Back Surround (single) rear speaker back in 1969!
{It is well documented on some other Audio forums.}
At age 9 or 10, I was making 'pseudo stereo' from AM mono transistor radios!
I bought my very own first acoustic guitar (with my own money) at age 12 or so.
My first Turntable follow soon after. Always with my own money!
{I used to deliver the paper and golf caddying when I was only 9-10, and did it for 4 or 5 years in the Summer time, and weekends.}
=> I got the record of most holes in one single day: 54!
 
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How do you plant 1000 trees a day? Using a machine or by hand? We planted 40 fruit trees with my backhoe and it still took us more than two days! Wish I had known you then :).
 
How do you plant 1000 trees a day? Using a machine or by hand? We planted 40 fruit trees with my backhoe and it still took us more than two days! Wish I had known you then :).

All by hand Amir!

I have two sets of custom-made '4-baggers' where you put all your trees (up to 70-pound loads), and have two dozen of shovels (& mattocks, & other specialised tools) that I shaped myself for any kind of terrain and trees.
The treeplanting set of 'baggers' attaches to your waist and over your shoulders. A regular set of treelanting bags is three of them.
Then you hit the slopes (sometimes with 80 degree+ angles; very steep!!!), and you plant the trees one by one using your shovel (used to be mattocks at the beginning), and picking the right appropriate tree from your bags for the right type of soil and elevation.

The trees can vary from being only six inches high to five feet tall! It all depends where and how high you are.

I can write books about describing to you all there is to it; but you can Google 'Treeplanting' and read about it from different perspectives. Some of my own personal experiences, as well my close encounters with death and mother nature are just simply unimaginable and absolutely incredible!

Amir, I know few people that consistently planted 5,000 trees every single day! But that was in Alberta, Canada, with totally flat ground and very good soil. You can plant (manually; no machine!) up to 700-800 trees per hour!!! But to keep that rhythm all day long is extremely demanding physically!

I only know three persons personally (including one girl) that planted 10,000 trees in one single day!
That was only for the record; because the next day they were totally burned out!
Mary Polson, the girl, had to work eighteen hours non-stop to accomplish that feat. The next day she planted 2,000 trees then quitted!

Also, you got pay per the tree (piece-work), and sometimes by the hectare, and it can be as low as five cents per tree, or it could be one dollar per tree; all depending on the terrains where you plant (the 'ground', how tough and steep and slashy it is). In some places the slash is ten feet high sometimes; so you have to go inside it down below, then get out, and finally plant trees all around it. And you do have 90 degree cliffs that sometimes you have to go around without any access for a quarter mile or so!
You can walk several miles per day in very rough terrains. And you can cover huge amount of land every day as well. Remember, you plant one tree at about every 9 to 12 feet spacing from each other!

A highballer can make $500/600 every single day, and up to $1,000/1,200 on some exceptional good days from the best contracts; but like I said it is very rare for a planter, but not for a foreman, as they also get paid by the production of their crew. But only up North, in the Interior, where they have that system.
Those that can make that type of money (the planters) are quite rare, and they are exceptionally strong and agile!
They are 'super-highballers'! I thirthy years I only met less than the total fingers of my two hands.

Me, I'm just a 'highballer', and my average was $300/400 a day (up to $600 on best days).
{If I work for an employer and cannot make more than $200/day, after two days I'm out of there!}

And average treeplanter career is about four to five years max! I did it for close to thirty years!

It is not for everyone! But if you luv physical work, and high altitude, and beautiful sceneries, and extreme challenges from mother nature, this is it!
And you also need nerves of steel! It is very challenging psychologically as well.

It is among musicians, artists, creators of any beautiful and pleasant and peaceful things of our society, one great positive job! It embellishes the destruction of man & nature, and provides air for the planet! For the people. And of course timber for our future houses.
And it is also very beneficial ecologically as it restores a balance, stops the erosions, and much much more...

I got tons of cards in Forestry and Ecology and Protection of the Environment. But the true ACT is the ACT itself!
The true Power of being proud of what you accomplished during your lifetime on Earth cannot be underestimated by the real Treeplanters of our planet!

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Amir, there is much much more to it (of course when you have performed that type of work for thirty years it has to), and no matter all what you can read on the Internet by googling it, it simply won't tell you nothing from the true veterans that have seen almost all of it!

What is unique with me personally is that I never worked for the same employer for more than three years.
{I luv to see different country sides, and also to meet new faces, new people; that's how I am!}
And in just one single year I sometimes worked for more than a dozen or plus employers!
And not only that, but I did a lot of mileage with my trucks. And again in just the course of a single year.
You simply wouldn't believe the extremely demanding things I did from one contract to another, from one employer to the next! Like for example (and I did that several times during my career), I would work a full day by planting 2,000+ trees, then come back to camp, pack all my gear, tent, etc. and drove all night (over 500 miles sometimes, and 100 of those in the bush), to finally arrive in the morning to another mountain, another contract, another employer, and start planting again! Without any sleep!
Bob (Robert, me) has tremendous endurance! And even now today still!
 
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They sell fruit at the grocery store.

Buy someone elses farm.
 
They sell fruit at the grocery store.

Buy someone elses farm.

Lol, I know, but they are not as tasty as when you pick them yourself though! :D

* As for buying a farm, or contract myself; ain't Bob, I need to work for someone I like, work with him, someone that works for me in the same way that I work for him!
TEAM work; no one is above, no one is below! Equal level!

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I worked for myself before; investing my own money by buying stocks. Know some' about it!
Used to make huge amount of money too, per day, in the five digits, all on my own!
And lost it all!
 
I've never been fired from a job. I've had to fire some people. That's never any fun. I've been kept at jobs where I couldn't believe I wasn't fired.

I've always suffered from problems with authority figures or problems being one.

Most of my life, though, I've been an employer rather than employee -- and that's probably kept my fire rate down substantially.

One time, I felt like firing myself unjustly, but I hired a mediator and we worked it out amicably.
 
I've never been fired from a job. I've had to fire some people. That's never any fun. I've been kept at jobs where I couldn't believe I wasn't fired.

I've always suffered from problems with authority figures or problems being one.

Most of my life, though, I've been an employer rather than employee -- and that's probably kept my fire rate down substantially.

One time, I felt like firing myself unjustly, but I hired a mediator and we worked it out amicably.

Hmm split personality Rob? I knew you were a bit strange when I saw you talking to yourself :)
 
I've never been banned from a forum, but I have received warnings for the weirdest of reasons.

I'm not banned from Audiogon, but I did notice, somewhere along the way, that they didn't like something I posted because there was a time when my posts appeared right away and then at some point, I must have been put on some kind of list because it started to take, like, 72 hours for my posts to appear and sometimes they didn't appear at all.

Started in threads about exotic cables, but then they started putting all of my posts in some kind of cooling tank for a few days, no matter how innocuous.

Audiogon seems to really frown on objectivist postings about Cables.

Oh, well.

I got it and I moved on.

So, they didn't ban me, they took the chickensh*t route and simply made it so boring, I lost interest.
 

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