Apogee Full range
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Maybe, if such an animal ever comes to life... I've read some of your posts Mike, we approach this hobby from different perspectives and our definitions of extreme "accuracy" doesn't have the same meaning either.
david
The wonderful thing about these "extreme accurate" amps is, they have the capability to emulate the sound you like, but the amps you like will never be able to emulate them
So we can please all with these amps, but only a small handful with yours 
The wonderful thing about these "extreme accurate" amps is, they have the capability to emulate the sound you like, but the amps you like will never be able to emulate them
How come I never heard them emulate anything I like?
david
I read this loudly and clearly as this amplifier is bright, edgy, analytical and fatiguing. This may be exactly what some people look for in an amplifier. This is the opposite of what I look for in an amplifier.
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What do I care about the wannabe when I can have the original? It's the same thing with digital photography, 30+ years of trying to emulate film! There's certainly a lot of analog envy going on with digital
!david
Same with this camera. Probably takes "Unnatural" pictures because it's digital
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...0hhbPWG416-zZwaAgcq8P8HAQ&Q=&is=REG&A=details
I have listened for hundreds of hours to this amplifier. Never had any ear fatigue that was not related to overly bright and compressed recordings. With well recorded music I can listen for days on end with absolutely no brightness, fatigue, edgy and whatever analytic is
.But no, it is no tube amp that rolls off the highs for you. And it won't compensate for bright sounding loudspeakers. Vast majority of the high-end systems I heard at RMAF were as you say by the way and gave me a headache. So it is not like I am not sensitive to it.
As I said, there is a lot that is wrong in RH's review. And that of what ddk posts. Decide if you listen to them or the person who knows how they work and uses this amp over his $20,000 linear amplifier.
So now we don't like it because we don't know how it works and not because of how it sounds?
david
To some extent I think the recording was also responsible. Here is the brass ear ripping track... believe me it was rawer in the flesh than on the video.
There's been a lot of brass playing in shopping malls live this Xmas over here and it just doesn't sound ear ripping. This did.
Sure it was show conditions but there's only show much allowance you can make for that being realistic about it.
OK a quick Shaz reveals the track is High Maintenance by the Big Phat Band from the album XXL which TIDAL just happens to have. I've just tried it on some mini monitors and it was nowhere near as raw as the above. Will try it later on the Apogees.
Something was wrong there. Amps - speakers - combo of both? One thing it didn't lack was life
My inclination is to blame a fair percentage of it on the amps. Without trying alternatives I can't be sure. I just suspect it. I had some $12,000 SMPS Hypex NC1200 based amps on the Apogees very recently and the mid to upper mid was horrid. All that with a decent pre at least price wise - an Audio Note M8.
Something was wrong there. Amps - speakers - combo of both? One thing it didn't lack was life
My inclination is to blame a fair percentage of it on the amps. Without trying alternatives I can't be sure. I just suspect it. I had some $12,000 SMPS Hypex NC1200 based amps on the Apogees very recently and the mid to upper mid was horrid. All that with a decent pre at least price wise - an Audio Note M8.
OK a quick Shaz reveals the track is High Maintenance by the Big Phat Band from the album XXL which TIDAL just happens to have. I've just tried it on some mini monitors and it was nowhere near as raw as the above. Will try it later on the Apogees.
Something was wrong there. Amps - speakers - combo of both? One thing it didn't lack was life
My inclination is to blame a fair percentage of it on the amps. Without trying alternatives I can't be sure. I just suspect it. I had some $12,000 SMPS Hypex NC1200 based amps on the Apogees very recently and the mid to upper mid was horrid. All that with a decent pre at least price wise - an Audio Note M8.
Which $12000 Hypex based amp are you referring to? If it's the Merrill or Acoustic Imagery, the sound you don't like is the LM4562 IC opamp input buffer. I agree, not that great.
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