Bayz Audio Counterpoint 2.0 >>>>Rhapsody.Audio
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Chris just happens to have the 2A3Souga, 300B Gakuoh snd 211Kaguras. He is actually listening to the Souga through the Counterpoint at moderate volumes and loves the sound.
Hi Bob,
How is the sound of new Gakuho?
I tried at home the previous model and i didnt like a lot,i listen also at home of 3 friends,and i didnt liked a lot from friends and then all 3 sold.
I love Kondo,i love Ongaku and Souga but was disappoinetd from gakuho
The bew are much better?
How is the sound of new Gakuho?
I tried at home the previous model and i didnt like a lot,i listen also at home of 3 friends,and i didnt liked a lot from friends and then all 3 sold.
I love Kondo,i love Ongaku and Souga but was disappoinetd from gakuho
The bew are much better?
Hi Gian,
Well, it's hard to compare. Chris uses good NOS tubes in the Kagura, Souga and GakuohII. We never like any of the stock tubes. On the Diesis Roma Triode Chris prefers the Souga first, then the GakuohII and then the Kagura.
Before Chris got the Souga he preferred the GakuohII on the RT and thought it had a magic sound.
I personally have not compared the combination as when I'm in Dallas all I do is listen to the M9s
Well, it's hard to compare. Chris uses good NOS tubes in the Kagura, Souga and GakuohII. We never like any of the stock tubes. On the Diesis Roma Triode Chris prefers the Souga first, then the GakuohII and then the Kagura.
Before Chris got the Souga he preferred the GakuohII on the RT and thought it had a magic sound.
I personally have not compared the combination as when I'm in Dallas all I do is listen to the M9s
Hi everybody,
it´s been about two years now that I have lived with the Courantes and I am still super happy with them. I feel absolutely no urge to upgrade speakers anymore, anytime soon. I have been playing around with electronics, room optimization etc. during the two years and I am slowly entering the "ridicilously great sound" level. Of course, everything is adjusted to my personal taste and that might not be everyone else´s. But I hardly ever hear anything at shows or dealers which makes me lacking - no matter the price of the systems. Of course, there are speakers which are better in isolated disciplines, but in terms of overall package I would not switch. In the past, listening to high end systems made me kinda feel bad about my own system at home. Not anymore!
Most of what´s still slightly off is caused by the room (there are limits as it´s not a dedicated listening room). That´s namely excess reverb on some specific fequencies and a tad bit of too much sharp high frequency energy with compressed/bad recordings (I am super sensitive to this). I know my room is prone for that - it did it with all previous speakers as well. I guess more diffusion would be needed. But my partner does not allow for it. ;-)
Greetings to all!
it´s been about two years now that I have lived with the Courantes and I am still super happy with them. I feel absolutely no urge to upgrade speakers anymore, anytime soon. I have been playing around with electronics, room optimization etc. during the two years and I am slowly entering the "ridicilously great sound" level. Of course, everything is adjusted to my personal taste and that might not be everyone else´s. But I hardly ever hear anything at shows or dealers which makes me lacking - no matter the price of the systems. Of course, there are speakers which are better in isolated disciplines, but in terms of overall package I would not switch. In the past, listening to high end systems made me kinda feel bad about my own system at home. Not anymore!
Most of what´s still slightly off is caused by the room (there are limits as it´s not a dedicated listening room). That´s namely excess reverb on some specific fequencies and a tad bit of too much sharp high frequency energy with compressed/bad recordings (I am super sensitive to this). I know my room is prone for that - it did it with all previous speakers as well. I guess more diffusion would be needed. But my partner does not allow for it. ;-)
Greetings to all!
Hi Bob, what 2A3 tubes does Chris recommend for the Souga?Hi Gian,
Well, it's hard to compare. Chris uses good NOS tubes in the Kagura, Souga and GakuohII. We never like any of the stock tubes. On the Diesis Roma Triode Chris prefers the Souga first, then the GakuohII and then the Kagura.
Before Chris got the Souga he preferred the GakuohII on the RT and thought it had a magic sound.
I personally have not compared the combination as when I'm in Dallas all I do is listen to the M9s
Re: sibilance and reverb: you may want to look at channel balance and cables, aside from room treatments or the playback components.
He is using RCA Cunningham Logo, single plate 1935 Date Codes. $2500/matched quad
Do you really think cables can make that much of a difference?
My room has an unfortunate combination of characteristics. On the one hand it´s sucking out the region around 100-200Hz, where the warm body of voices lives and another suckout from 700-900Hz. And in addition to that, it´s significantly boosting 1000-1500Hz. This combination thins out voices and puts them in front. I can correct those with Acourate quite well and it works great, except for that the 1000-1500 Hz region now still holds more reverb energy in relation to direct energy.
Overall reverb time in my room is highest from 2000-7000Hz (though on moderate levels). And this is what´s hard to fix in addition to the 1000-1500Hz level fix. It still leaves me with some wall bouncing sound pressure from 1000-7000Hz. Even though the overall loudness levels are flat and in balance after the correction, the frequency range from 1000-7000 shows a significantly higher relation of reverb to direct sound than the areas below and above.
I have no idea how to improve this except with specific room treatment. I also don´t want to overdampen the room. So I guess diffusion would be the way to go, but hard to install in a living room.
Don´t get me wrong - this is already on a good level. Basically every hotel room in shows I have ever heard had way bigger problems than what I am still facing. But I am a perfectionist in this regard. I want to get it completely right! ;-)
I fully can relate to your last statement!
A good room acoustics consultant could be very beneficial.
Can a cable make that much of a difference? Yes, unfortunately! But first start with room treatment. The cables can come later, if required. Just use good quality mid-priced AC and interconnects and speaker cables and then adjust later if required.
It is a high frequency boost, for rooms that are over dampened.
No vinyl at the show.....files only.
Bob in Portland and Chris in Texas both have vinyl playing with Bayz Counterpoint at their locations, as do I.
Ron, if you want to hear these speakers in a proper environment you should come to Portland where their full potential can be realized. I recently moved them back to the listening room after spending a couple months with Alsyvox Botticelli X and I’m continually amazed by their sound. It is very easy to understand why some people love an Omni directional presentation, particularly when done at this level.
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