Burmester 911 mk3
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Rocco,
Only to those we do not have experience with great tube sound of high quality. Although I do not know what means "a realistic sound" I can risk saying that the most realistic sound I have ever listened reproducing acoustic music was from tubes.
But I never listened to a great Burmester system - I will do it as soon as I can!
Rocco,
Only to those we do not have experience with great tube sound of high quality. Although I do not know what means "a realistic sound" I can risk saying that the most realistic sound I have ever listened reproducing acoustic music was from tubes.
But I never listened to a great Burmester system - I will do it as soon as I can!
Hi,
about the experience is not my case. In the years, around the globe, I listened in very known situations (acustical and electrical) the most important brands of tube gears. I spent years ago, 11 months in Japan for my work concerns (I'm not in audio business, but I'm only mainly a music lover and then I love the most realistic correct and sound reproduction) and at least once/twice a weak I listened for all period all Japan Tube Brands with their top components carefully settled with the most attention to details.
For my listening experience with live-music and especially at my ears the sound expression from tubes is well recognized and It's far from the "true concept of neutrality" as I intend with no colorations and euphonic sweetings. Of course this is my point of view according my experience. No any intention that my concept should pass for an absolute
!P.S.: About the Burmester sound, my personal reference nowdays. I wish you to listen soon "a whole reference system"
...Surely will be an amazing experience.
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Hi,
about the experience is not my case. In the years, around the globe, I listened in very known situations (acustical and electrical) the most important brands of tube gears. I spent years ago, 11 months in Japan for my work concerns (I'm not in audio business, but I'm only mainly a music lover and then I love the most realistic correct and sound reproduction) and at least once/twice a weak I listened for all period all Japan Tube Brands with their top components carefully settled with the most attention to details.
For my listening experience with live-music and especially at my ears the sound expression from tubes is well recognized and It's far from the "true concept of neutrality" as I intend with no colorations and euphonic sweetings. Of course this is my point of view according my experience. No any intention that my concept should pass for an absolute
P.S.: About the Burmester sound, my personal reference nowdays. I wish you to listen soon "a whole reference system"
My experience with tubes is similar to yours. I have been a tube fan for a while .. It slowly became clear to to me however, that SS were as good and in many instances superior to Tubes... Call it a look backwards because in these days (early 90's) I looked at SS with an amount of condescension.I continued to favor tubes but the more I listened to the best electronics be they tubes or SS the more I became convinced that the gap has been bridged and that SS were the way to go if one value neutrality and a removal of colorations ...
So far Burmester remains my reference. I do however have great respect for Spectral, Edge, Dart Tzeel and Plinius ...and a few others particular gear (Bryston 28B monos for example) ..
On this one brand I have never heard mentioned in this forum is Edge ..Crazy good..Crazy impressive if you ask me.. Fully in the league of electronics I mentioned. Amongst the best electronics I have heard.
I'm sooooo happy for you, Joe. You'll be even happier with the amps when they get more run in as Gary mentioned. My xperience with the amps is exactly like Gary's. They do get better and better and hopefully, like Gary says, there'll be a quantum leap after about 1,000 hours.
If that's the case and I don't strap myself down while listening, you are going to have to peel me off the ceiling.
If that's the case and I don't strap myself down while listening, you are going to have to peel me off the ceiling.
I'll have to do exactly that, Joe. You'll have to have more straps to stay down, I'm afraid!
--- Solidly handmade in Germany with true passion, and using top quality parts.
Chord is nice too. :b ...But Burmester it ain't.
Burmester is the real deal, with real Class in its products and from its owners. :b
They have that special 'touch', 'cachet', 'respectable humanity', 'valor', musical quality.
Chord is nice too. :b ...But Burmester it ain't.
Burmester is the real deal, with real Class in its products and from its owners. :b
They have that special 'touch', 'cachet', 'respectable humanity', 'valor', musical quality.
Bob-You have an answer or statement for every post on every thread. There is tons of high-end gear that is designed and built with passion and top quality parts so that isn't the answer. It has to be the design of the circuits and thus my question.
--- Mark, I participate in less than 1% of all the threads at WBF; so I can't be in every thread. :b
And like you just said, I never said that other audio manufacturers don't also build with passion and quality parts.
...Burmester's internal circuit designs; you might be into somethin' solid here. :b
But I'd also say the external design appearance as well.
...At the end; Quality Sound Performance, Burmester's Uniqueness.
And like you just said, I never said that other audio manufacturers don't also build with passion and quality parts.
...Burmester's internal circuit designs; you might be into somethin' solid here. :b
But I'd also say the external design appearance as well.
...At the end; Quality Sound Performance, Burmester's Uniqueness.
I started with a stereo 911mk3 and my dealer convinced me the factory mono 911mk3's were something special. He is 100% correct. From the first note of my new to me stereo amp I was hooked. When I setup the monos, I knew I was home again. There are some very good brands I have not heard like Vitus and Goldmund (I am sure there are more ...) but Burmester kills it. If there is anything better, I'd love to hear it but whatever it is I am sure it's crazy more expensive than what I have and I doubt there is better.
Mine are not factory monos and they are still fantastic. I just wanted the flexibility of having the biamping option. Anyone did any comparison? My dealer told me the difference will not be great if there is any.
From what people who have heard the monos (not mine), the factory mono 911mk3's are supposed to sound better than one stereo 909mk5. Maybe Gary or Rocco can comment when they get a chance.
garylkoh
WBF Technical Expert (Speakers & Audio Equipment)
I haven't done the comparison between mono 911's and stereo 909, but I have no doubt that the factory mono 911 would be better than using a y-adapter cable, having another piece of wire and another interface mix to make a normal stereo 911 into a monoblock.
Thanks Gary,
I am over the top happy with my mono 911mk3's. A friend on another forum recommended to use the "surround" pass through of my 077 to hook up my Conrad Johnson GAT preamp using the supplied RCA to XLR adapters. It works beautifully and sounds superb. I have the best of both worlds and can use either as the mood strikes. Awesome!
I am over the top happy with my mono 911mk3's. A friend on another forum recommended to use the "surround" pass through of my 077 to hook up my Conrad Johnson GAT preamp using the supplied RCA to XLR adapters. It works beautifully and sounds superb. I have the best of both worlds and can use either as the mood strikes. Awesome!
hi,
alas, i am still waiting for my 2nd 911 to arrive or else i could have given you my impression. while i want to run them vertically biamped, i would love to hear them in bridged mono config. will let you know as soon as i a set up.
cheers
What makes Burmester so special??
Burmester components play true music and listening them is very clear that Its ideator-engineer is clearly involved in making music. Dieter Burmester is also a professional musician and he fully transferred his own overall knowledge and skill to his audio systems just to have the state of the art at home and to achieve a perfect shape, perfect quality, perfect function and perfect sound. I think this is the secret of Burmester's success!!
Hi Joe,
the 911's monos sound with a bit of more of sound quality refinement and resolution at my ears than a 909's stereo. A mono-pair of 909's are the last word in ultimate power. I listened many times the 909's monos, but never compared side by side with 911's monos. Surely the 911's are top-class amps and my personal reference.
About the Y adapters, I never listened the 911's mono internally bridged by factory. For what I know, however the difference (if any) should be very-very small because the Y adapters are made with with same silver cable that Burmester uses internally in the 911's.
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