Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

[SoundMann]

I have attended many unamplified acoustical performances in Boston, both orchestra and chamber.

That's good news. I haven't been out that way for years.

 

[SoundMann]

You couldn’t be more wrong in my experience, but this is your entrenched view and I’m sure you’re going to stick with it!

I think you’re view is well known and now you’re just repeating yourself.

Well, I will admit that a record pressed from a good, well recorded high order DSD source can be acceptable to the serious listener, especially when a good studio tape is the original source.

But let me remind you of the fact that I am particularly sensitive to what digital does wrong.

 

[Al M.]

Well, I will admit that a record pressed from a good, well recorded high order DSD source can be acceptable to the serious listener, especially when a good studio tape is the original source.

But let me remind you of the fact that I am particularly sensitive to what digital does wrong.

Or maybe you just don't have good enough digital playback gear.

 

[SoundMann]

Or maybe you just don't have good enough digital playback gear.

You should tell that to the people who own the multimillion dollar systems I regularly listen to.

Yes, digital can sound acceptable when you throw enough money at it, but it doesn't sound like the real thing.

 

[PeterA]

You should tell that to the people who own the multimillion dollar systems I regularly listen to.

Yes, digital can sound acceptable when you throw enough money at it, but it doesn't sound like the real thing.

I have a friend with a very expensive system who sold his Vivaldi stack when he heard a Schiit YGGY DAC.

 

[SoundMann]

I have a friend with a very expensive system who sold his Vivaldi stack when he heard a Schiit YGGY DAC.

You and and your friend need to hear a Zanden.

 

[Joe Whip]

Soundmann has an opinion. Good for him. We do not need to keep hearing it over and over and for what purpose? Talking about million $ systems does not impress me one bit as I have heard some that didn’t sound all that good.

 

[Joe Whip]

You and and your friend need to hear a Zanden.

Maybe you and your friend should hear an Yggy? See what I did there?

 

[SoundMann]

Soundmann has an opinion. Good for him. We do not need to keep hearing it over and over and for what purpose? Talking about million $ systems does not impress me one bit as I have heard some that didn’t sound all that good.

I was making a point, and you seem to have have an axe to grind with me!

 

[SoundMann]

Maybe you and your friend should hear an Yggy? See what I did there?

I've heard it.

 

[twitch]

Too long!

just as I thought, you have no clue !

 

[Joe Whip]

No axe to grind just tired of the same old, same old. Too much of that on audio forums.

 

[thedudeabides]

Just to be clear, I was quoting Rexp. I personally don't lose sleep over formats.

So sorry.

 

[thedudeabides]

Can you recommend some recent Jazz releases I can try? Thanks!

Vinyl only or is CD ok?

 

[SoundMann]

just as I thought, you have no clue !

Those who say I am clueless are simply ignorant of anything about me!

 

[wil]

Well, I will admit that a record pressed from a good, well recorded high order DSD source can be acceptable to the serious listener, especially when a good studio tape is the original source.

But let me remind you of the fact that I am particularly sensitive to what digital does wrong.

Pushing the “I’m just more sensitive “ narrative is particularly un-convincing to me, not to mention coming off as pretty arrogant.

I’m confident I’m at least as intolerant of bad digital as you are. I can be somewhere playing bad digital and feel the physical need to escape ASAP! I’ve also heard analog reproduction that makes me want to take a hike as well.

However, neither experience makes me jump to narrow-minded dogmatic conclusions.

I’m happy for everyone who enjoys their vinyl. It does get annoying however when it seems that an integral part of the enjoyment for some is in continually confirming it’s supposed superiority to digital.

I guess if you’re going to read audio forums, the subject will just keep repeating itself over and over…

 

[PeterA]

You and and your friend need to hear a Zanden.

I know very little about digital. I only have vinyl in my system. And my friend I think is all set although I don’t know what digital he has now.

 

[twitch]

Those who say I am clueless are simply ignorant of anything about me!

whatever, regardless you couldn't answer my question !

 

[Audiohertz2]

what cracks me up with regards to his view is I wonder if he even knows how long 'digital' has been a part of the production chain in the mastering and final steps in producing a 'analog' Lp ??

Digital recordings mastered to LP do sound better than the digital file , the purity of Digital playback is very unnatural and easily picked up by those sensitive to it ..


Regards

 

[Rexp]

Vinyl only or is CD ok?

Digital only, CD's fine, streaming better.