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And this is our situation in Canada from two days ago ...
• https://globalnews.ca/news/6576504/canadian-flight-japan-cruise-ship-lands/
• https://globalnews.ca/news/6576504/canadian-flight-japan-cruise-ship-lands/
“We deeply regret that there was an operational error,” he said at a news conference. “We will examine what went wrong so we will not repeat the same mistake.”
• https://globalnews.ca/news/6583246/passenger-infected-diamond-princess/
• https://globalnews.ca/news/6583246/passenger-infected-diamond-princess/
Do it by country...separate out China and Iran and see what the results are:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Maybe so...just want to point out that China and now Iran have very different disease profiles to the RoW.
Thanks...will do.
However, the trailer ignores the fact that they called doom and gloom on bird flu and swine flue and SARS....all duds. Next they conflate vaccination in general with a possible flu pandemic. Flu vaccine is a GUESS at what the likely fu virus will be for the coming year. Take a look at the side effect profile of these drugs and vaccines proposed for recent epidemics (extremely deadly by themselves)! Also, they tend to come much too late, after the outbreak disappears.
https://www.latimes.com/science/sto...vid-19-with-drugs-targeting-hiv-malaria-ebola
rxlist.com provides a list of adverse effects of Kaletra:
* diarrhea
* headache
* weakness
* nausea
* vomiting
* stomach upset
* drowsiness
* dizziness
* a bad taste in the mouth
* trouble sleeping
* skin rash
* changes in the shape or location of body fat (especially in your arms, legs, face, neck, breasts, and waist)
“Tell your doctor if you have serious side effects of Kaletra including”:
* unexplained weight loss
* persistent muscle aches or weakness
* joint pain
* numbness or tingling of the hands/feet/arms/legs
* severe tiredness
* vision changes
* severe or persistent headaches
* signs of infection (such as fever, chills, trouble breathing, cough, non-healing skin sores)
* signs of an overactive thyroid (such as irritability, nervousness, heat intolerance, fast/pounding/irregular heartbeat, bulging eyes, unusual growth in the neck/thyroid known as a goiter)
* signs of a nerve problem known as Guillain-Barre Syndrome (such as difficulty breathing/swallowing/moving your eyes, drooping face, paralysis, slurred speech)
* increased thirst
* increased urination
* confusion
* persistent nausea or vomiting
* stomach or abdominal pain
* yellowing eyes or skin
* dark urine
Chloroquine adverse effects (from Drugs.com)—“Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking chloroquine”:
* anxiety
* attempts at killing oneself
* back, leg, or stomach pains
* black, tarry stools
* bleeding gums
* blistering, peeling, or loosening of the skin
* blood in the urine or stools
* blurred or decreased vision
* change in near or distance vision
* chest discomfort or pain
* chills
* cold sweats
* confusion
* continuing ringing or buzzing or other unexplained noise in the ears
* cough
* dark urine
* diarrhea
* difficulty in focusing the eyes
* difficulty with speaking
* difficulty with swallowing
* disturbed color perception
* dizziness
* dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up suddenly from a lying or sitting position
* double vision
* drooling
* fast, slow, irregular, or pounding heartbeat
* feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
* feeling that others can hear your thoughts
* feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
* fever
* general tiredness and weakness
* halos around lights
* headache
* hearing loss
* inability to move the eyes
* increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
* joint or muscle pain
* large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, or sex organs
* light-colored stools
* loss of balance control
* lower back or side pain
* muscle trembling, jerking, or stiffness
* muscular pain, tenderness, wasting, or weakness
* night blindness
* nausea
* overbright appearance of lights
* painful or difficult urination
* pale skin
* pinpoint red spots on the skin
* puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue
* red skin lesions, often with a purple center
* red, irritated eyes
* restlessness
* shuffling walk
* skin rash, hives, or itching
* sore throat
* sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
* sticking out of the tongue
* stiffness of the limbs
* sweating
* swollen or painful glands
* tightness in the chest
* trouble breathing
* tunnel vision
* twitching, twisting, or uncontrolled repetitive movements of the tongue, lips, face, arms, or legs
* uncontrolled movements, especially of the face, neck, and back
* unusual bleeding or bruising
* unusual tiredness or weakness
* upper right abdominal or stomach pain
* vomiting
* yellow eyes and skin
Adverse effects of remdesivir—the drug has not been approved for public use. I find at least one human clinical trial has been done on people “infected by the Ebola virus,” and another clinical trial is underway now. So far, I see no published list of adverse effects—probably because the drug is still in the test phase. Using this drug on “coronavirus patients” would certainly be experimental.
This is what I’m sitting here picturing: A person in Wuhan, who is having respiratory problems, owing to the unprecedented mixture of toxic pollutants in the air of the city, enters a clinic. He is given a chest CT Scan. He’s told he has a lung infection—pneumonia. Because a CT Scan is now absurdly sufficient for a diagnosis of “epidemic coronavirus,” he is given that label. NO test for the purported coronavirus is done. The person is shunted into a treatment room, and a doctor tells him his condition is quite serious, and he will be treated with a drug: chloroquine.
Go back and read the list of adverse effects again!
This video seems more political than scientific. A pig in lipstick is still a pig.
As to the Spanish Flu, it was the most un-flu like infection I have ever seen. All about it was different...
My point is to keep and open mind and follow the evidence. Do not shut down you thinking capacity in deference to authority. This may be the real deal, or it may be just another instance of the boy crying wolf.
However, the trailer ignores the fact that they called doom and gloom on bird flu and swine flue and SARS....all duds. Next they conflate vaccination in general with a possible flu pandemic. Flu vaccine is a GUESS at what the likely fu virus will be for the coming year. Take a look at the side effect profile of these drugs and vaccines proposed for recent epidemics (extremely deadly by themselves)! Also, they tend to come much too late, after the outbreak disappears.
https://www.latimes.com/science/sto...vid-19-with-drugs-targeting-hiv-malaria-ebola
rxlist.com provides a list of adverse effects of Kaletra:
* diarrhea
* headache
* weakness
* nausea
* vomiting
* stomach upset
* drowsiness
* dizziness
* a bad taste in the mouth
* trouble sleeping
* skin rash
* changes in the shape or location of body fat (especially in your arms, legs, face, neck, breasts, and waist)
“Tell your doctor if you have serious side effects of Kaletra including”:
* unexplained weight loss
* persistent muscle aches or weakness
* joint pain
* numbness or tingling of the hands/feet/arms/legs
* severe tiredness
* vision changes
* severe or persistent headaches
* signs of infection (such as fever, chills, trouble breathing, cough, non-healing skin sores)
* signs of an overactive thyroid (such as irritability, nervousness, heat intolerance, fast/pounding/irregular heartbeat, bulging eyes, unusual growth in the neck/thyroid known as a goiter)
* signs of a nerve problem known as Guillain-Barre Syndrome (such as difficulty breathing/swallowing/moving your eyes, drooping face, paralysis, slurred speech)
* increased thirst
* increased urination
* confusion
* persistent nausea or vomiting
* stomach or abdominal pain
* yellowing eyes or skin
* dark urine
Chloroquine adverse effects (from Drugs.com)—“Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking chloroquine”:
* anxiety
* attempts at killing oneself
* back, leg, or stomach pains
* black, tarry stools
* bleeding gums
* blistering, peeling, or loosening of the skin
* blood in the urine or stools
* blurred or decreased vision
* change in near or distance vision
* chest discomfort or pain
* chills
* cold sweats
* confusion
* continuing ringing or buzzing or other unexplained noise in the ears
* cough
* dark urine
* diarrhea
* difficulty in focusing the eyes
* difficulty with speaking
* difficulty with swallowing
* disturbed color perception
* dizziness
* dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up suddenly from a lying or sitting position
* double vision
* drooling
* fast, slow, irregular, or pounding heartbeat
* feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
* feeling that others can hear your thoughts
* feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
* fever
* general tiredness and weakness
* halos around lights
* headache
* hearing loss
* inability to move the eyes
* increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
* joint or muscle pain
* large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, or sex organs
* light-colored stools
* loss of balance control
* lower back or side pain
* muscle trembling, jerking, or stiffness
* muscular pain, tenderness, wasting, or weakness
* night blindness
* nausea
* overbright appearance of lights
* painful or difficult urination
* pale skin
* pinpoint red spots on the skin
* puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue
* red skin lesions, often with a purple center
* red, irritated eyes
* restlessness
* shuffling walk
* skin rash, hives, or itching
* sore throat
* sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
* sticking out of the tongue
* stiffness of the limbs
* sweating
* swollen or painful glands
* tightness in the chest
* trouble breathing
* tunnel vision
* twitching, twisting, or uncontrolled repetitive movements of the tongue, lips, face, arms, or legs
* uncontrolled movements, especially of the face, neck, and back
* unusual bleeding or bruising
* unusual tiredness or weakness
* upper right abdominal or stomach pain
* vomiting
* yellow eyes and skin
Adverse effects of remdesivir—the drug has not been approved for public use. I find at least one human clinical trial has been done on people “infected by the Ebola virus,” and another clinical trial is underway now. So far, I see no published list of adverse effects—probably because the drug is still in the test phase. Using this drug on “coronavirus patients” would certainly be experimental.
This is what I’m sitting here picturing: A person in Wuhan, who is having respiratory problems, owing to the unprecedented mixture of toxic pollutants in the air of the city, enters a clinic. He is given a chest CT Scan. He’s told he has a lung infection—pneumonia. Because a CT Scan is now absurdly sufficient for a diagnosis of “epidemic coronavirus,” he is given that label. NO test for the purported coronavirus is done. The person is shunted into a treatment room, and a doctor tells him his condition is quite serious, and he will be treated with a drug: chloroquine.
Go back and read the list of adverse effects again!
This video seems more political than scientific. A pig in lipstick is still a pig.
As to the Spanish Flu, it was the most un-flu like infection I have ever seen. All about it was different...
My point is to keep and open mind and follow the evidence. Do not shut down you thinking capacity in deference to authority. This may be the real deal, or it may be just another instance of the boy crying wolf.
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Again, let me remind you of why Wuhan may be conflating and why death rates there will be higher than most anywhere else: Yale review which stated that the mixture of toxic elements in the air is unprecedented in human history.
'Three other cities listed as regularly suffering dangerous levels of four or five of the pollutants are Jining, also in Shandong, Wuhan in Hubei province, and Jiayuguan and Jinchang in Gansu. None of the seven appear in the lists of the ten most polluted Chinese cities published by the WHO or Chinese environment ministry. "
https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-...ing-a-troubling-health-risk-in-chinese-cities
'Three other cities listed as regularly suffering dangerous levels of four or five of the pollutants are Jining, also in Shandong, Wuhan in Hubei province, and Jiayuguan and Jinchang in Gansu. None of the seven appear in the lists of the ten most polluted Chinese cities published by the WHO or Chinese environment ministry. "
https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-...ing-a-troubling-health-risk-in-chinese-cities
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-china-wuhan-pollution/
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/10/asia/china-wuhan-pollution-problems-intl-hnk/index.html
https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/environmental-protest-breaks-out-in-chinas-wuhan-city/
https://capitalcambodia.com/polluted-air-could-be-an-important-cause-of-wuhan-pneumonia/
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/10/asia/china-wuhan-pollution-problems-intl-hnk/index.html
https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/environmental-protest-breaks-out-in-chinas-wuhan-city/
https://capitalcambodia.com/polluted-air-could-be-an-important-cause-of-wuhan-pneumonia/
Skip the Docuseries "Pandemic" and watch Contagion instead ...
Did you see the film Parasite? It's not about a virus but it's the big Oscar winner this year.
It's relaxing ...
Did you see the film Parasite? It's not about a virus but it's the big Oscar winner this year.
It's relaxing ...
The few experienced could see this coming.
Futures Plunge, Gold Soars As Covid-19 Contagion Craters Complacency | Zero Hedge https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/futures-plunge-gold-soars-covid-19-contagion-craters-complacency
Futures Plunge, Gold Soars As Covid-19 Contagion Craters Complacency | Zero Hedge https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/futures-plunge-gold-soars-covid-19-contagion-craters-complacency
Is it just a coincidence that this Coronavirus originated in Wuhan, the same city in which the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, the only high-security ("Level 4") virus research laboratory in China, is located?
It's probably pure coincidence, the 20 miles distance between the lab and the market.
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Traders and funds were buying calls until the mini flash crash Friday morning. Then you could see the buying of insurance finally..not a whole lot...though about double the normal volume.
This will be a break away gap down. We could limit down in the S&P as the German DAX could be down hard..
Warren Buffett has unrealized profits of 54 billion and shows that on his 2019 books....many more like him caught flat footed with no hedge....very nervous Friday and tomorrow for the funds.
Ron, again you are overreacting; the links I posted...two of them were already posted from a while back in this own very thread and are still, and the other one was from a scientist who recently died...RIP. They have zero to do with politics and answered your own question.
As a friend I suggest you relax and stop seeing negative where there's none, political bullshit where there's none.
You asked if there was a coincidence between the lab and the market @ proximity.
You had the best answer and you deleted it! Honestly sometimes you just mesmerized me.
Are you asking trick questions or are you genuine?
As a friend I suggest you relax and stop seeing negative where there's none, political bullshit where there's none.
You asked if there was a coincidence between the lab and the market @ proximity.
You had the best answer and you deleted it! Honestly sometimes you just mesmerized me.
Are you asking trick questions or are you genuine?
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I appreciate you posting the map. That is very interesting, and it answers my question.
The Zerohedge links triggered a lot of fencing previously, and I did not want to risk having to deal with that again. The Sciencemag link had nothing overtly to do with Wuhan.
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