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My wife just came back after spending a month in London and Northern Italy. 17 days ago in Italy.

I cannot go to work as I must self quarantine myself for 14 days and work from home thanks to their just released Coronavirus BCM policy. hmmm

anyone else returning from business or personal international travel must do the same o_O
You are a good man Shane.
 
Excuse me Mr. President.
Simple math: number of deaths divided by number of cases gives us the percentage. It is impossible overestimate because that is the actual number.
Last I heard WHO says there is a projected 2.2 % death rate. That could rise or fall.
What makes it dangerous is that. It can be transmitted through air before the patient knows he is infected.
Saying that a person infected with a potentially fatal disease is only mildly ill is pure nonsense. They may be asymptomatic but they need to seek immediate medical attention and be subjected to quarantine. Any other course is wreckless.
The challenge remains is how do we detect those who are ill but remain asymtomatic.
This sort of foolishness is what can seriously impact the nation's and world's economies (already happening). Every disease has the potential to be fatal, from an infected scratch on your hand to the common cold. We don't know the death rate because nobody knows the actual number of cases; to know that, everybody would need to be tested, and we are nowhere near able or willing to do that. And as I posted previously, and is true to date as far as anyone knows, children don't die from this (or if they do it is rarely, and there are no reported deaths yet), and healthy young (under about 40, perhaps 50 y.o.) adults very very rarely die from this. Excluding China, the overall death rate is about 1.4%, and less than 1% in most countries, and that latter rate is what the CDC and WHO are predicting when more complete data is available
 
No most diseases are neither fatal nor highly contagous. That sort of ignorance is dangerous.
Many precautions short of testing exist.
We do need to construct a model for the rate of infection. These things can expand exponentially. Early intervention is the key.
 
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This sort of foolishness is what can seriously impact the nation's and world's economies (already happening). Every disease has the potential to be fatal, from an infected scratch on your hand to the common cold. We don't know the death rate because nobody knows the actual number of cases; to know that, everybody would need to be tested, and we are nowhere near able or willing to do that. And as I posted previously, and is true to date as far as anyone knows, children don't die from this (or if they do it is rarely, and there are no reported deaths yet), and healthy young (under about 40, perhaps 50 y.o.) adults very very rarely die from this. Excluding China, the overall death rate is about 1.4%, and less than 1% in most countries, and that latter rate is what the CDC and WHO are predicting when more complete data is available

Wrong.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-51674743
 
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If you are under 50 and not having a pre-existing condition the death rate is well below 1%. In Italy the average age of people dying is 81 years old...fatalities in children under 9 = 0 deaths.
Not relevant to the discussion. The death rate is the death rate regardless of who dies.
 
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Not relevant to the discussion. The death rate is the death rate regardless of who dies.
Actually, depending on your age it is highly relevant. The point is that the death rate is not a monolithic number but highly age dependent.
 
No most diseases are neither fatal nor highly contagous. That sort of ignorance is dangerous.
Many precautions short of testing exist.
We do need to construct a model for the rate of infection. These things can expand exponentially. Early intervention is the key.
Actually very few diseases are as contagious as the common cold or influenza, and MRSA colonization of the general population in the US is quite high (~20%); nevertheless, very few otherwise healthy people die from those conditions (just as with CoVid19). I am not the ignorant one here.

Don't misunderstand, this is definitely a serious situation, but it doesn't appear to be another SARS or Ebola, probably not even as bad as a serious influenza epidemic, and we definitely need more information. But the panic that has ensued is way disproportionate to the actual health threat.
 
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Not relevant to the discussion. The death rate is the death rate regardless of who dies.

A death rate which varies by known factors is meaningless as one consolidated number.

Most people want to know the death rate so they can figure out what their (and their loved one’s) risks are. If the rate varies by age, which is the case with the coronavirus, it is good to know the rate by age.
 
But the panic that has ensued is way disproportionate to the actual health threat.

The panic in the US is mostly due to conflicting or misinformation. There is also a another component in that most do not believe the government is yet prepared for this based on the small number of people who have been tested in the US as of this morning.
 
Let's get this straight; us older audiophile farts with our hiend stereo systems have a much better chance to die than young iPods audiophiles/headphone's bangers.
But then it's a soft death, without banging our heads ...
 
The overall death rate is not 1% as you posted before.
No I didn't; I posted that outside China the death rate was about 1.4%, and most experts now predict that the US death rate will be under 1%. Italy's experience may change that prediction, of course.
 
What's your point Bob, you saying these people are too stupid to know any better.

It was simple humor to say that people who are worry too much stop living and having fun, that's all.

It's tough when we're not around each other to see the true meaning of our words.
And in particular with highly sensitive health subjects like the Coronavirus.

Sometimes I'm looking for that balance between good living and global health.
We're 7.8 billion of us, I'm not alone. My Mum is 85, all my brothers and sisters in their 60's.
My best friend just turn 80. Ma compagne younger, 44.

Children don't die from Coronavirus but they do get infected and can transmit to their parents and everyone.
 
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