Coronavirus ...

[parkcaka]

At 80+ age death rate is 14.8%. This is scary.

Between 70-79 it is 8%. Nearly 1 out of 10 people dies, which is huge.

60-69 it is 3.6%. 36 times the death rate of normal flu. Very dangerous.

50-59 and it’s 1.3%. Still 13 time more dangerous than normal flue but its a fight.

40 and below it is around 0.4% which means it’s the worse flu you’ll probably ever have but if you don’t have a pre-existing condition and have good care, you’ll be ok.

We don’t have exact data due to the nature of the beast but these numbers can give us a perspective.

 

[XV-1]

It can get quite severe for those who have weak lungs, asthma, type issues irrespective of age

so can the Flu for these people and probably more severe. my daughter has asthma, so always gotta be careful.

 

[XV-1]

At 80+ age death rate is 14.8%. This is scary.

Between 70-79 it is 8%. Nearly 1 out of 10 people dies, which is huge.

60-69 it is 3.6%. 36 times the death rate of normal flu. Very dangerous.

50-59 and it’s 1.3%. Still 13 time more dangerous than normal flue but its a fight.

40 and below it is around 0.4% which means it’s the worse flu you’ll probably ever have but if you don’t have a pre-existing condition and have good care, you’ll be ok.

We don’t have exact data due to the nature of the beast but these numbers can give us a perspective.

these figures are highly exaggerated - how many cases have gone un-diagnosed? probably 2 to 10 times what is reported.

 

[Lagonda]

There is a silver lining
https://www.businessinsider.com/oil...rice-war-futures-coronavirus-2020-3?r=US&IR=T

 

[parkcaka]

these figures are highly exaggerated - how many cases have gone un-diagnosed? probably 2 to 10 times what is reported.

These numbers come from health organizations such as WHO. Yes we can speculate all we want from our living rooms but until more accurate data is present, officials need to act on these.

How many people died from this virus without being diagnosed? We don't know that either.

 

[wisnon]

The dead we are sure of...those who had it with mild symptoms are the stats that go undetected.

The avg age of those who died in Italy is 82. It is bad and has to be contained, but not the zombie apocalypse!

 

[wisnon]

That is in Iran Norm, other countries they don't disinfect street signs above their heads.
Here we limit toilet paper in Costco stores.

Right now Italy is high on the list of serious measures. Iran too, even disinfecting high street signs ...

The aviation industry is not healthy, OPEC is losing some marbles, Russia we know nothing, and yes we should be careful with door knobs and handrails from escalators.
That virus can stick to surfaces up to nine days...metal, plastic, wood, etc.

China did it too. Saw the vids 10 days ago.

 

[wisnon]

A disturbing fact: on Feb the 20th, there were 3 coronavirus cases in Italy. Now they have close to 8000.

DIAGNOSED! But the cases were there weeks ago.

 

[wisnon]

Feel bad for Gian. Cant go out read newspaper, cheek kissing, mingle with ladies at coffee shop in the morning now.

Kidding aside. Pls stay clean avoid public contact keep yourself healthy. Don't be irresponsible. This thing will feel much closer more threatening to us when we hear someone we know on this forum is fighting his life against it now.

Agreed. there

On a lighter note, you were not too far off. Our Italian friends were complaining that they had to take their coffee in paper cups and had to drink it OUTSIDE the cafes. Not allowed to drink inside and linger. Oh, the horror!

 

[wisnon]

Hundred years ago (Spanish flu), nobody knows exactly how many died...20, 50, 100 million.
Fast forward today, nobody knows exactly how many are infected right now and how many will die.

All that we know is that the world health scientists are not taking this lightly, and neither the world markets, the oil industry, the aviation industry, the cruise ship industry, ...the industrial world.
Numbers are tough to evaluate when a virus doesn't always show symptoms, people cannot be tested, when we are passed the containment phase, when we are in uncharted territory.

So I agree 100% with you that those stats are wrong, far from being accurate...the number of people being infected worldwide and each individual country. They are probably higher than lower; not lower...impossible.
We do what we can, we wash our hands.

It wasn't Spanish and it wasn't a flu that killed. It was a pernicious BACTERIAL pneumonia. See the CDC paper I posted last week. Unless we get the facts straight, we go around in circles like headless chickens.

 

[morricab]

The dead we are sure of...thse who had it with mild symptoms are the stats that go undetected.

The avg age of those who died in Italy is 82. It is bad and has to be contained, but not the zombie apocalypse!

Given that 80% of CONFIRMED cases are mild there is almost certainly a legion of undiagnosed cases with little to no symptoms. Just look at how all early cases in Switzerland started...all people who were in Italy a week or two before...when supposedly there were still only a few cases! It becomes obvious that it was already much more widespread than what was reported by authorities.

 

[NorthStar]

Go to www.worldometer.com, click coronavirus and then statistics based on age. Below 60 your chances are very good...above 70 it gets risky...

Yes, I posted that link several times in this thread; I'm very familiar as to which age group is more vulnerable from the Coronavirus.
But middle age people die too, as it happened for example with that young Chinese doctor (age 34), the whistleblower.
• https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...s-warnings-dies-disease-who-confirms-n1131556

* I am extremely vulnerable myself, with a heart condition, compounded to some considerable extent with my age...mid 60s.
Don't tell anyone, this world is for the children...who inherit from us.

 

[NorthStar]

It wasn't Spanish and it wasn't a flu that killed. It was a pernicious BACTERIAL pneumonia. See the CDC paper I posted last week. Unless we get the facts straight, we go around in circles like headless chickens.

I know Norm, "Spanish flu" is just a wiki name.
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

 

[NorthStar]

It can get quite severe for those who have weak lungs, asthma, type issues irrespective of age

Exactly; and high blood pressure, hypertension, stress, allergies, etc., etc., etc.

 

[NorthStar]

China did it too. Saw th vids 10 days ago.

China took some extreme radical measures that the vast public majority is not even aware of.
Iran and Italy are going high alerts too now.

 

[Al M.]

It wasn't Spanish and it wasn't a flu that killed. It was a pernicious BACTERIAL pneumonia. See the CDC paper I posted last week. Unless we get the facts straight, we go around in circles like headless chickens.

Really? The CDC says that the so called Spanish flu was caused by an H1N1 virus:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html

 

[howiebrou]

Really? The CDC says that the so called Spanish flu was caused by an H1N1 virus:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html

Like most diseases the cause of death is often multifactorial....

 

[howiebrou]

It wasn't Spanish and it wasn't a flu that killed. It was a pernicious BACTERIAL pneumonia. See the CDC paper I posted last week. Unless we get the facts straight, we go around in circles like headless chickens.

Don't talk to me about headless chickens - i still have nightmares about them!

 

[Dimfer]

our family on isolation while waiting for our daughter’s COVID-19 test result. she got sick (mild fever and coughing) after she came back from a Disney trip mid February. she (24) has asthma and stil coughing, so she decided to get tested last saturday.

 

[howiebrou]

Maybe we should ask one of our members living in Seattle what actually is happening in Seattle.

After living in London for two years (2015 and 2016) I developed no respect for the accuracy of English reporting about matters in the United States.

Must have been the accent!