David Karmeli’s Bionor/Lamm/AS-2000 Audio System

[DasguteOhr]

The horn put lower for 'hifi ' listening makes sense, though the top part of the open baffle would show a gap and hence my doubt, in both Bionor versions (1 versus two midrange horns) the midrange was mounted in the top board.

klangfilm uses the length of the tweeter's spherical wave horn to ensure that bass and treble drive are at the same level (depth). so that the sound hits your ear evenly at the right time. If you put the horn driver further forward, you have to work with a digital delay, otherwise it sounds modest. For home use, there is an acoustic lens for the horn. it ensures perfect omnidirectional behavior of the tweeter over short distances.

 

[asb]

Re post 179 : If you own enough baffle parts it is easy.

 

[asb]

Re post 181 : I do not agree with the alignment statement.

Compare Eurodyn and Bionor driver distances, both use the
same mid/tweeter driver and horn and the same crossover.

The acoustic lens was introduced for cinema, but can be
advantageous at home also.

 

[DasguteOhr]

Re post 181 : I do not agree with the alignment statement.

Compare Eurodyn and Bionor driver distances, both use the
same mid/tweeter driver and horn and the same crossover.

The acoustic lens was introduced for cinema, but can be
advantageous at home also.

Of course, both have the same crossover, the same drivers are used (later models are different). The big difference: Bionor puts a horn in front of the bass and Eurodyn doesn't. If the tweeter was deeper in the bass horn I wouldn't have said anything. the second photo looks better apologies post#180

 

[shakti]

Rare offer of Bionors, seems like first hand (not mine)

Klangfilm Kl. L 433 Bionor (4178237836) | Gebrauchtgerät | Standlautsprecher | Angebot auf audio-markt.de

Angeboten wird „Kl. L 433 Bionor“ von Klangfilm als Gebrauchtgerät aus der Kategorie „Standlautsprecher“ bei audio-markt.de - dem Online-Marktplatz für High-End. Das Inserat mit der Nummer 4178237836 endet am 26.12.2023 um 14:34 Uhr.

www.audio-markt.de

 

[Lagonda]

Rare offer of Bionors, seems like first hand (not mine)

Klangfilm Kl. L 433 Bionor (4178237836) | Gebrauchtgerät | Standlautsprecher | Angebot auf audio-markt.de

Angeboten wird „Kl. L 433 Bionor“ von Klangfilm als Gebrauchtgerät aus der Kategorie „Standlautsprecher“ bei audio-markt.de - dem Online-Marktplatz für High-End. Das Inserat mit der Nummer 4178237836 endet am 26.12.2023 um 14:34 Uhr.

www.audio-markt.de

And : Preis Auf anfrage ! Means " If you have to ask the price, you can't afford them " In German !

 

[asb]

Attention, this is a fraudulent offer which was canceled at "Kleinanzeigen" (small ads) before.
The user account was suspended. Later they tried to sell this pair for cash by a middleman.

 

[PeterA]

There is something rather odd about the positioning of those speakers in the room.

 

[John T]

If anyone is in need of REL bassline (pair) Blue 6M cables, PM me. Forgot I had them. Brand new never out of the box. I'll price them right...John

 

[shakti]

Attention, this is a fraudulent offer which was canceled at "Kleinanzeigen" (small ads) before.
The user account was suspended. Later they tried to sell this pair for cash by a middleman.

Thank you for the information, I just asked for a Demo of the Bionor On offer.

 

[Lagonda]

Thank you for the information, I just asked for a Demo of the Bionor On offer.

I would be most worried about the zero rating of the seller, but for Jürgen in Germany it is time to fire up the big van, and drive 220 km/h out to look at them !

 

[Argonaut]

I would be most worried about the zero rating of the seller, but for Jürgen in Germany it is time to fire up the big van, and drive 220 km/h out to look at them !

I would be more worried if they were dragged out of some sticky old ‘Gentleman’s’ cinema in the back streets of the Reeperbahn if I were you

 

[Lagonda]

I would be more worried if they were dragged out of some sticky old ‘Gentleman’s’ cinema in the back streets of the Reeperbahn if I were you

It would be a find, if they had only played burlesque music while in use, no classical crescendos or canon fire to wear on them !

 

[asb]

Post 188 : "There is something rather odd about the positioning of those speakers in the room"
I know the complete picture set from the original ad and was thinking about photoshop make,
but not sure. The big picture is distorted in scale due to phone camera I think.

Post 190 shakti : I was not able to log in to "Audiomarkt", glad you did, please keep us informed.

191 : where did you see the seller rating - and who is Jürgen ? Anyway he will not be able to
go there at any speed, because "they" are very strict with their appointments (I tried it before).

 

[the sound of Tao]

It would be a find, if they had only played burlesque music while in use, no classical crescendos or canon fire to wear on them !

I’m pretty sure horn porn is just an expression… it’s not actually a thing people do is it???

 

[Lagonda]

Post 188 : "There is something rather odd about the positioning of those speakers in the room"
I know the complete picture set from the original ad and was thinking about photoshop make,
but not sure. The big picture is distorted in scale due to phone camera I think.

Post 190 shakti : I was not able to log in to "Audiomarkt", glad you did, please keep us informed.

191 : where did you see the seller rating - and who is Jürgen ? Anyway he will not be able to
go there at any speed, because "they" are very strict with their appointments (I tried it before).

shakti is Jürgen ! You klick on "Benutzerprofil" if you want to see the sellers previous deals that have been rated !

 

[Lagonda]

I’m pretty sure horn porn is just an expression… it’s not actually a thing people do is it???

I am sure it is the only porn that some of our most fanatical members practice, they have probably tried SET porn too, but you only do that once, ouch !

 

[MarkusBarkus]

...enough horn porn to make John Birks "Dizzy"

 

[asb]

The ad was terminated today, did Shakti get in contact ?

 

[shakti]

The ad was terminated today, did Shakti get in contact ?

no answer to my mail