I'm guessing either the One-Step process and the repro head of the tape machine maintains really good channel separation, or they use some kind of mid-side processing to increase the width. I noticed some David Glasser Grateful Dead remasters have extra width from mid-side processing, and others do this as well. But that does sound a bit artificial.
Do Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Re-issues Have a Digital Step in the Process?
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I agree that greater separation between channels enhances the sound quality. 2 track tape is excellent in that regard. To my ears, it makes a significant improvement compared to the vinyl albums I have of the same material. One-step may provide greater separation also. Maybe someone has an explanation why. I can think that the S/N ratio is better with one-step (fewer steps should mean less groove noise). That may increase crosstalk between channels. Anyone know if this is true?
I mentioned in a thread on another forum that it looks like DSD256 started in the early-mid 2010's, and one-step started a year or two later.
Larry
I mentioned in a thread on another forum that it looks like DSD256 started in the early-mid 2010's, and one-step started a year or two later.
Larry
You missed a few things. There were inserts shipped with some records indicating all analog. These records are now known to have been cut from digital files. And you've got a Mofi mastering engineer on video unfortunately lying about specific record(s) having been all analog when it is simply not true. Besides that, the advertising is simply deceptive to a degree that other labels don't seem to be. I have no horse in this race, and don't have but a few of their records, but Mofi screwed up big any way you look at it.I don't understand the outrage over the digital master discovery when MoFi never made any AAA claims in their materials, people just assumed and we all know about assumptions!
Do Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Re-issues Have a Digital Step in the Process?
Yesterday I was sent a YouTube video by Mike of The In Groove who alleges that every Mo-Fi One Step release (his broader claim is every Mobile Fidelity release since 2015) has a digital step in the mastering process. He proffered an initial theory or two, but then rejected those as improbable...www.whatsbestforum.com
Nor do I understand the cancellation of orders, if you guys liked their sound what does it matter if there's a digital step and don't be surprised when you find the same digital process in almost every so called "audiophile" label. The expertise to cut lacquer manually from analog sources simply doesn't exist anymore even if the , and that's a fact! All this crap about noise filtering and the horrible 180g vinyl is what's killing the sound not the digital mastering and everyone is still good with that.
david
Tell me more about noise filtering and 180g records. That sounds like a far more interesting topic of discussion at this point. In another thread.
Check out this interview with Chad Kassem. This is a man who runs his company in a truly transparent fashion and respects his customers.
To my credit (toot toot) I knew something was up. I just didn't know what, because my assumption was the OMR meant AAA. I rip all my vinyl and then analyse the results so that I can try to get some idea of provenance.
AAA titles typically look like this. The spectrogram is always clean.
Whereas here's a MoFi (Love Over Gold). Lots going on here. The demarcation at 30kHz. The elevated noise between 30kHz-50kHz (now we know this is DSD ultrasonics). You simply don't see this kind of spectrogram with AAA material.
I assume it is more the fact that they don’t want to purchase anything from what appears to be a very deceitful company. Some people stand by their principles in these matters.
According to MoFi engineers they began using digital in their vinyl reproduction in 2008; i.e. Abraxas was sourced from the 2008. It may not have been DSD256, but according to the engineers digital was being used and if it wasn’t DSD256 then it must have been something worse?
I am not sure that the original master is even analog, Knopfler fell in love with the convenience of digital around that time, Bob Dylans " Infidels" that he produced 1983 is early digital, and sounds nasty. Dire Straits earlier, analog sourced albums definitely sound better.
I believe Love Over Gold was the last Dire Straits album to be recorded in analog. The digital recording started with Brothers In Arms.
"Love Over Gold" surely sounds better than "Brothers In Arms", a free CD with purchase of a Sony CD player in Europe back then .
Yes, DSD256 is much more recent. But the collection of superlative cooments written by analogue experts and digital critics in the audio press and forums about this 2008 Abraxas exceeded anything I have read about the high-end ...
Trying to add a little levity...
Years ago a colleague of mine was in Germany having dinner with a client. He always acted like he was a fine wine connoisseur. During dinner he sipped the wine that the client had purchased and said "this bottle confirms that the Germans made the best wine." The client responded "that may be true, Al, but the wine you are drinking is from France."
I don’t understand this. Thriller was released in 1982. How was the “original source” a digital file?
Telarc was issuing digital sourced LPs in 1979. They used digital recorders made by Soundstream. At than time Soundstream also supplied machines to the big names in the business.
The Mitsubishi X800 32-channel, for recording, and X80/80A 2-channel stereo, for mastering and archiving, digital PCM recorders were the industry standard in elite professional studios in the late 70’s and early 80’s before the Sony PCM DASH digital recorders took over.
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As far as I know these Mitsubish recorders were only available in 1980. Decca , Soundstream and Denon predated them.
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