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Then all these set ups must have been really bad or something is ... with your ears;)

In the end it is a matter of taste but no flow with any of the Kondo’s? You must be kidding

Rudolph, when you want to listen to proper SETs you need to do with horns :). Please if you can fly over to Heathrow, and then me to you, we can have common data points to discuss.

All SETs have a certain flow when used in sensitive speakers. What the LV does, even a devore with the Kondo will do. There is nothing special, at least in the Munich room, which just gives me a bloated sweet sound. Outside that room, who knows, very difficult to listen to private LV set ups.
 
Sorry Ked, but as stated before: I dissagree; you do not need horns to let - relatively powerful - set amps of say 50w (like eg the Kondo Kagura’s) shine. Sensitive cone loudspeakers with no (cruel) impedance drops will do nicely provided the other fundamentals - acoustics, power and grounding - are right. If you are willing and able to listen unbiassed, I can prove this to you.

Horns (that is all the ones I experienced) just do not tick my audio boxes. That said, that is just me, I fully understand their appeal and wish all horn lovers loads of fun with their speakers
 
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Rudolph, when you want to listen to proper SETs you need to do with horns :). Please if you can fly over to Heathrow, and then me to you, we can have common data points to discuss.

All SETs have a certain flow when used in sensitive speakers. What the LV does, even a devore with the Kondo will do. There is nothing special, at least in the Munich room, which just gives me a bloated sweet sound. Outside that room, who knows, very difficult to listen to private LV set ups.
I refer again back to post #36...ever heard a Strad up close??
 
No, only you have as only you had a gf who could play one. So does it lack energy, without a dynamic range, thick mid, up close?
Not one of the fellow horn owners i am friends with woukd describe the LV system as you have... time for you to re-evaluate your hearng i think. That said i dont think this basso sub is nea4ly as good as the Vox Elyssian sub.
 
I heard this speakers at AXPONA 2019, they were playing some Linda Ronstadt and I thought my ears were going to bleed. With too much high frequency energy, Linda should not do that to your ears.
 
Still haven't heard a Marten system I liked...heard many models and with all kinds of amps...bright is the what I consistently hear...
I was somehow in the same boat until last week when i heard this set up with Mingus 20..
Actually i have the same feeling of brightness with majority of speakers made with Accuton drivers.
But this implementation was very different - if i may say so - even sounded somewhat darkish to me..
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Those use the latest generation of accuton midrange drivers. I have been living happily with a variant of the said honeycomb/underhung drivers for a while now. These drivers are much harder to drive into resonance peak ringing than those made 8 to 10 years ago were. One can visually ID them by looking at the flange's taper. Yes these drivers are very smooth while retaining the speed of their predecessors.
 
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