Entreq Tellus grounding
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Hi Barry,
Do you mean you can connect the negative speakers input to the Poseidon with other things like a preamp for example, at the same Poseidon ?
the big thing about the Poseidon is that it has three completely disconnected boxes (three Olympic Minimus boxes actually) in one chassis. which is why it can be used for the negative speaker terminals. if these boxes were not separate bad things would happen.
so no problem mixing and matching anything to any of three terminals of the Poseidon. preamp to the middle box ok. only that it's only one terminal, and in theory you are using left and right preamp plugs to connect to two separate Entreq posts. but one post would be better than none.
no worries, mostly I have to go to the Entreq site to keep all the names straight. it does get confusing with cable and box names interchanged....and box names repeated here and there.
blame it on Jazzhead.
..... The quest to keep pushing boundaries , tread where no man has ! Will be interesting to see how an uber rig/room will react to three seemingly inconsequential little boxes , filled with cat litter . Just disconnected my outer two Atlantis Minimus which connect to the Posiedon . Immediate flattening of stage , loosing depth and tonal density to note reproduction . So I expect a nice boost to be had , will be watching this space keenly . Cheers !Might as well throw in a few Everests into the mix ......
Might as well throw in a few Everests into the mix ......
I'm already fully 'Everest'ed' with 7 of those, 4 on the Silver Tellus and 3 on the Poseidon.
I will fasten my seat belt before inserting the Atlantic Minimus boxes. Joe Pittman says 3+ weeks for delivery.
I just added 5 further Entreq Silver Wraps...takes us up to 34 across the system...nuts. These last 5 took a while to place (where and how you place them makes a difference when listening to the same piano segment over and over), but they continue to drive the system forward and allow us to get the most from the existing components. Piano FINALLY has all the depth of tone and weight of keyboard strike of our last setup in the old room plus all the benefits of the new room...air, detail, room...took 7 months to get here, but got here this evening. Long live Entreq...
I agree - your system needs working on
been pondering your 'not unexpected' response to my decision to add more Entreq. aren't I done?
and I guess I have to say that how I got my system to the place it's at, that we both appreciate, is the same process I just went through to add these 3 Atlantis Minimus boxes.
I got a whiff of an opportunity for a system-wide performance boost, thought it over for a few months, weighed the cost/benefit, and the hassle factor of doing it, and then pulled the trigger. I almost did it 45 days ago but backed off.....I was not sure enough then.
will this be that move that is only 'meh'? could it take things backwards? well.......my view is that, if anything, my system now takes absolute advantage of any gain. it's transparent like that.
I also considered adding another Troy product, but decided not to spend that amount of money.
Might as well throw in a few Everests into the mix ......
Very interesting.
Have you tried the Entreq i'cs and speaker cables.
I'm very pleased with mine and they,of course. have their own earth connections to the ground boxes.
obviously the three Everest's I have already for the Poseidon will also be used for those same posts connecting AM incoming cables.
maybe i'm missing something, but my understanding about the Atlantic Minimus is that it has a captured connecting cable and that there is no option to use another cable and there is no post to use an Everest knob. please clear up my misunderstanding if that is what it is. as is normal for Entreq, information is a bit obscure and mystical....and the picture does not show the umbilical or any post. so we are left to guess about it. (or is that big oval piece of wood a knob on a post?)
from the Entreq website regarding the Atlantis Minimus;
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If by captured you mean captive .. Then no . There is a short umbilical that s suppled with the AM , normally terminated with an Entreq type spade either side . One end will will hook on to the Poseidon peg and the other to the M8 silver binding post on the AM, similar to the binding post on the Poseiden . The wooden screw on block , depicted in the picture is incorrect . It uses the normal hollow wooden peg to clamp the spade . I have the AM binding post Everested , with good gains . Hope this sort of helps.
yes; that helps to get the correct picture that there is a knob on the AM itself that will accept an Everest. and that to your ears the Everest's there make a positive difference. thank you for the clarification.
now the question becomes, do I buy three more Everest's?
I suppose it's a little late to stop now.
Hi Barry , no have not . Only have experience with their grounding products . My Atlantis Cleanus does however have a captive Atlantis PC which has the 3.5mm earth connection . I have an Eartha Apollo plugged in , as into a few AC wraps which have a similar plug in socket . Have you tried the wraps , they are a bit fiddly to get right but worth investigating .
I thought I'd jump back in the Entreq thread that I started some years back, and has been so ably continued in my absence
I hope I haven't been missed TOO much
As some of you know, my system was packed away for well over a year, and only recently set up again in my brand new room
The room has truly excellent acoustics, and more relevant to this thread, truly unadulterated power, w neighbours few and far between, and a bespoke isolated feed/dedicated lines/8kVA balanced transformer supply to my gear
Things sounded already great out of the box, ie approx 2x better than my prev London apartment, and that's prior to my power being sorted
Ie cheapo cheapo power cords straight out of domestic house sockets
Moving up to the bespoke power setup, now utilising my Sablon Reservas power cords w US plugs into my Furutech sockets has pushed things along massively in terms of bass headroom, texture and drive
Then I proceeded to add in my Entreq ie Silver Tellus, Apollos to all components, and Apollo Cleanus/Olympus Minimus (plugged into a spare Furutech), and hear the difference
Initially, not much at all
A hint of additional sweetness, but on balance not dramatic
A few days later, things on the analog front esp have benefitted a lot, a great deal more transparent and "decluttered" and the typical Entreq opening up of communication in the presentation
I would have to say however, Entreq is nowhere near as beneficial as in London
I do put this down to my grid being so much cleaner
But Mike has even better power than me, so maybe there's another explanation, and I think I know what it is
In London, for whatever reason, going from Apollo to Atlantis ground cbls was a negative
Despite Barry's and pretty much everyone's favourable trials w Atlantis cbls, this wasn't the case for me, w things actually sounding decidedly fuzzier
But now, esp w RogerD highlighting major advantages of signal grounding needing in theory the biggest gauge grounding cbls, and w my room being the v definition of audio microscope and neutral blank canvas, it may be time to reinvestigate ground cbls much chunkier than my Apollos
I actually have a contact (who shall remain nameless) who is going to make up a trial spade-spade ground cbl in the tradition of the Troy Emperor uber fat one, to see if all of this is right by grounding the preamp or phono
If it is, I'll a/b v an Atlantis and we'll go from there
I hope I haven't been missed TOO much
As some of you know, my system was packed away for well over a year, and only recently set up again in my brand new room
The room has truly excellent acoustics, and more relevant to this thread, truly unadulterated power, w neighbours few and far between, and a bespoke isolated feed/dedicated lines/8kVA balanced transformer supply to my gear
Things sounded already great out of the box, ie approx 2x better than my prev London apartment, and that's prior to my power being sorted
Ie cheapo cheapo power cords straight out of domestic house sockets
Moving up to the bespoke power setup, now utilising my Sablon Reservas power cords w US plugs into my Furutech sockets has pushed things along massively in terms of bass headroom, texture and drive
Then I proceeded to add in my Entreq ie Silver Tellus, Apollos to all components, and Apollo Cleanus/Olympus Minimus (plugged into a spare Furutech), and hear the difference
Initially, not much at all
A hint of additional sweetness, but on balance not dramatic
A few days later, things on the analog front esp have benefitted a lot, a great deal more transparent and "decluttered" and the typical Entreq opening up of communication in the presentation
I would have to say however, Entreq is nowhere near as beneficial as in London
I do put this down to my grid being so much cleaner
But Mike has even better power than me, so maybe there's another explanation, and I think I know what it is
In London, for whatever reason, going from Apollo to Atlantis ground cbls was a negative
Despite Barry's and pretty much everyone's favourable trials w Atlantis cbls, this wasn't the case for me, w things actually sounding decidedly fuzzier
But now, esp w RogerD highlighting major advantages of signal grounding needing in theory the biggest gauge grounding cbls, and w my room being the v definition of audio microscope and neutral blank canvas, it may be time to reinvestigate ground cbls much chunkier than my Apollos
I actually have a contact (who shall remain nameless) who is going to make up a trial spade-spade ground cbl in the tradition of the Troy Emperor uber fat one, to see if all of this is right by grounding the preamp or phono
If it is, I'll a/b v an Atlantis and we'll go from there
Mike yes I meant that in jest, and also as a compliment - I am well aware that "and I guess I have to say that how I got my system to the place it's at, that we both appreciate, is the same process I just went through to add these 3 Atlantis Minimus boxes." - is exactly what the compliment was for - that you don't stop, and while even those with a budget read and theorize, you are working away.
I'm intrigued that Mike is persisting more w Entreq than Troy, even though I surmise he's had more dramatic upstick w Troy
Maybe something to do w the costs, Tripoint Empress spkrs crossover grounding is 3x the cost of Entreq equivalent
Maybe something to do w the costs, Tripoint Empress spkrs crossover grounding is 3x the cost of Entreq equivalent
